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Re: muslim-christian dialougue

by Louis Epstein <le@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 13, 2008 at 12:50 AM

small giant <mutawafayez@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
: Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD" Isaiah 1:18
: Christians believe that Jesus (pbuh) came to teach all of mankind the
: religion of God and to show them the path to salvation. All mankind is
: therefore required to follow his message and only those who believe in
: the crucifixion and the redemption will be saved. They believe that
: the Jews are also required to convert to Christianity since Jesus was
: sent to them, therefore, they are the most qualified people to
: recognize the word of God and the signs of Jesus (pbuh) to be found in
: their own book. Most Jews, on the other hand, tell us that Jesus
: (pbuh) was not a messenger of God, but rather a false prophet, a
: sorcerer, an offspring of adulterers, and many other allegations. They
: claim that there are no prophesies of Jesus (pbuh) in their book and
: that he was not the promised Messiah/Christ (anointed one). Their
: Messiah is yet to come. For this reason, they claim that they are not
: required by God to follow Jesus (pbuh) and were justified in killing
: him.
: Muslims believe in both Moses and Jesus (pbut) as true prophets of
: God. We believe that both Moses and Jesus as well as Noah, Abraham,
: Jacob, and all the rest of the prophets of God were all truthful
: messengers as well as faithful and faultless servants of Allah
: Almighty. We also believe in the miracles of Jesus (pbuh), including
: his miraculous birth. Muslims believe that each time a messenger of
: God would pass away, mankind would begin to slowly fall back upon
: their evil deeds until they had managed to corrupt His original
: message. When this would happen, God Almighty would send a new prophet
: to renew His original message to these people and return them to the
: straight path. In this manner, the true message of Allah would always
: be available to all those who searched for it until the day of
: judgment. This can be seen in the Bible in such verses as Matthew
: 5:17-18 we read:
: "Think not that I (Jesus) am come to destroy the law, or the prophets:
: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you,
: Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise
: pass from the law, till all be fulfilled, Fulfillment of Law of
: Moses."
: The Jews know God as "Elohiym" or "Yahweh." The Christians know Him as
: "God," or "Father," or "Jehovah," etc.. Muslims know him as
: "Allah" (and more than 99 other venerable names). Muslims believe that
: Allah Almighty did not send down many messages to mankind but only
: one: The religion of submission to His will, the uniqueness of
: Himself, and the knowledge that He is the only one worthy of wor****p.
: The details of the religion were molded to suite each individual
: people, but the message was one message: "Allah is One. Wor****p Him
: alone!" This is made apparent in the verse of Aal-Umran(3):84 which
: states that which means:
: "Say (O Muhammad): We believe in Allah, and that which is sent down
: unto us, and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and Ishmael, and
: Isaac, and Jacob, and the sons of Jacob, and that which was vouchsafed
: unto Moses and Jesus and the Prophets from their Lord. We make no
: distinction between any of them and unto Him we have surrendered."
: Also, in Al-Nisaa(5):138 we read that which means
: "O you who believe! Believe in Allah and His messenger, and the
: Scripture (Qur'an) which he has revealed unto His messenger, and the
: Scripture which He revealed aforetime. Whosoever disbelieves in Allah
: and His angels and His Scriptures and His messengers and the last day,
: he verily has wandered far astray."
: Muslims are told in the Qur'an that the unscrupulous few had managed
: to pervert the words of God Almighty sent down to Jesus (pbuh) and the
: previous prophets after the passing of their prophets. The well
: meaning m***** were then misled by what was claimed to be 100% the
: "inspiration" of God. The changes made by these people have resulted
: in countless contradictions between the verses. As we shall soon see,
: these contradictions and changes have been well recognized and
: do***ented in the West for centuries now. However, their actions have
: been excused because they are assumed to have been well meaning and
: were only trying to clarify that which was obscure and so forth when
: they changed the word of God (See chapter 2). Whatever their motives,
: these apologists forget the command of Deuteronomy 4:2
: "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye
: diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD
: your God."
: The liberties mankind has taken with God's previous scriptures is one
: of the reasons why God sent down the Qur'an as His last message to
: mankind and took it upon Himself this time to personally preserve it
: for all time from corruption or modification


But this assertion that the Koran is uniquely immune to distortion
is a ludicrous conceit...all "Scriptures" are equally fallible,
if not equally false.

[enormous snippage]


: i try to send the second part of this dialougue tomorrow
: see this site www.sultan.org

Why don't you go see www.apostatesofislam.com ?

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
 




 4 Posts in Topic:
muslim-christian dialougue
small giant <mutawafay  2008-02-17 05:30:17 
Re: muslim-christian dialougue
John VanSickle <evilsn  2008-02-17 15:16:04 
Re: muslim-christian dialougue
Green-Eyed Chris <cwlN  2008-02-17 21:53:15 
Re: muslim-christian dialougue
Louis Epstein <le@[EMA  2008-10-13 00:50:55 

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