Brian Smith wrote:
> "Karen M" <itskarenm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:itskarenm-1005082311050001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> In article <l7uVj.131236$Cj7.107513@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, "Brian Smith"
>> <dcg_brian@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I can it being easy to get the tram from Australia to England because
a
>>> ****p
>>> is much bigger than a tram. Once in England I imagine they ****pped by
>>> train
>>> to as close to his land as possible and from there probably had to
take
>>> it
>>> apart and ****p it by truck and then reassemble it.
>> I've read the Tale of the Tram somewhere though I can't remember
whether
>> it was in "Flower Fantasies" or one of the "Architectural Digest"
>> articles. I believe it was trucked in intact (once off the ****p,
>> obviously), and the real problem was getting it into Woodside--it was
too
>> big to fit through the gates and had to be lifted over by crane, an
>> eventually that apparently hadn't been foreseen.
>>
>>> The number 520 is more than likely for inventory purposes. Depending
on
>>> the
>>> size of the tram I could see it costing more than $1 million even back
in
>>> 1983.
>>
>> Way less. It's less than GBP40,000 now to send a railroad car from
>> California to the UK.
>>
>> http://www.swanagerailway.co.uk/news319.htm
>
> I wasn't even thinking about the ****pping cost but the cost of the tram
> itself.
>
>> I've seen this car--interesting, but out of place. It can't possibly be
in
>> shape to be put on rails so would have to be ****pped out of L.A. It's
not
>> very big, as rail cars go; probably longer than a tram car but not as
>> wide.
>>
>>> And would a tram make a could office without doing a ton of
>>> renovations?
>>>
>> What has Elton ever bought that hasn't been majorly renovated? :-)
>>
>>
>> Oddly enough, there are railroad car collectors all over...well, North
>> America, at least. I know several people who have had railroad engines
or
>> cars hauled many miles over roads and placed on their properties.
>> Sometimes they restore them, but mostly they just let them sit. I don't
>> really understand it, but it's a harmless enough hobby.
>>
>>
>> Karen
>
> It probably has to do with the great im****tance railroads played in
opening
> up and developing North America. They obviously didn't play that role in
> Europe even though it is sort of strange that now rail travel is common
in
> Europe and not so much in North America. Of course if the oil companies
keep
> screwing us with outrageous gas prices a lot more people might be forced
to
> use mass transit and to travel long distances by rail. Maybe we should
go
> back to the stagecoach days! :-)
>
> Corndogger
>
>
A tram is a very urban means of trans****t in Melbourne. They only can
travel to a limited extent out from the main city, train lines go
further out. I may have been on Elton's tram once, but it might be a
bit too long ago. I am curious if it has a location showing on the top,
like 'Glen Iris' which would be strange in Elton John's back yard.
One tram website said his tram was 'restored'. But the condition is
unknown, he is under no obligation to make it authentic. I can easily
imagine major renovations, seats removed, air conditioning with heating
added, some kind of insulation, maybe the door changed.
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