Freakzilla said,
> On Jul 16, 5:53 pm, "Tony" <t...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > "Freakzilla" <jl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > If Paul was a master a religious manipulation as mentioned by a
poster
> > > above, Paul would be well equipped to stop any Jihad he didn't
approve of.
> > > And if it was the Fremen who initiated the Jihad in Paul's name,
wouldn't
> > > it
> > > be expected to hear an observer comment on this fact in Dune
Messiah?
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > And Paul saw how futile were any efforts of his to change any smallest
> > bit
> > of this. He had thought to oppose the jihad within himself, but the
> > jihad would
> > be. His legions would rage out from Arrakis even without him. They
> > needed only
> > the legend he already had become. He had shown them the way, given
> > them mastery
> > even over the Guild which must have the spice to exist.
> >
> > Hi Freakzilla,
> >
> > It's always great to hear from you. :-) Are you saying that a
comment by
> > an observer in Dune Messiah about Paul not initiating the Jihad
himself,
> > would be superfluous because Paul had a vision of a possible future
with a
> > Jihad started without his initiative?
>
> No, I'm simply saying that Paul DID NOT start the Jihad, it was a
> thing destined to be by the Race Consciousness. The only hand that
> Paul had in it was giving the Fremen control over the Guild through
> the threat of destruction of the spice.
Having just finished (just a few hours ago) re-reading Dune, Paul did what
he
could to stop the jihad as it was his desire to prevent it. Paul came to
realize
that the jihad was going to happen whether he was around or not.
--
Fred
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