On 5 Mar, 22:01, "Tony" <t...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "Darwi" <odrade.da...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>
> <snip>
>
> What FH thought, we can not know.
> But I agree that religion is part of being human. For me, FH shows in
> his work how that part can be easily be used for the manipulations.
>
> T: =A0You and Wild Monkshood raise some excellent points. =A0I don't
think=
our
> positions are that far apart. =A0But let me ask you, =A0When you say the
K=
wisatz
> Haderach symbolizes a messiah, in what sense are you using the term
messia=
h?
> Are you saying Paul was a religious king, in the Jewish sense of the
term
> messiah?
Well, I'm using term messiah simply because FH himself used that term
to describe him. Remember that scene when Paul first drive trough
Arakeen? People shout that he's messiah.
If you ask me to choose meaning of the word messiah which would, in my
opinion be best fitted to Paul, then I've got to go with 'the chosen
one' a person chosen to do certain task. For me Paul is human,
extraordinary one due to his education and breeding, but nevertheless
human. Perfectly fitted for the task in FH put in front of him, indeed
a 'chosen one.' I can not go with the Jewish sense of the term simply
because that meaning implies Hebrew background to the story, and there
is none. The complete story is a comment on todays people, and on
situation which was existing in 20th century earth as FH saw it. I do
admire the complexities of the details in which FH went to describe a
human nature.
Now I'll try to explain to you how I see all of that. I'll try to make
it as clear as I can.
Paul himself suppose to be a product of a centuries of breeding and
he has characteristics we can not even imagine how is to have. A
personal history of one human is what makes it the way he/she is. All
those little silly things every one of us went trough the childhood.
many of those memories are suppressed because they were too painful.
It is indeed very hard trying to imagine how would everyday life
looked like if you were able to access not only every single of your
own memories, but also memories of many of your ancestors. Just that
would make completely different person. On top of that FH gave him
possibility to see the future.
All of that sounds scary and impossible to imagine, really imagine.
That's why Paul seems so extraordinary. And he is, from our point of
view. But you see, Paul was surrounded with other creatures, his
mother, his sister, whole Bene Gesserit, later his children and
Ghanima offspring's, who had similar characteristics. He was not
extraordinary, he was just a bit better than the rest. FH contributed
all that to the special DNA characteristic which came to blossom in
Leto III. When you go along that story, then until death of Leto III
you had that 'special' DNA spread trough the human race. Mostly
dormant, as even now most of our genes are dormant, but existing.
Because of that story development I can not declare Paul supernatural.
He was just a bloke who had certain positive genetic mutation that
spread trough species. The same thing already happened in human
history when we got the brains we have today.
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