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> > My opinion is that F. Herbert did not wished to include the
> > monotheistic God (the God) in his writing simply because one can not
> > have interesting and tense story with =A0omniscient, omnipotent,
> > omnipresent, omnibenevolent main character.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Well, there were people who believed in what you are
calli=
ng "The God"
> in Dune ref. the Orange Catholic Bible, but it was not a main component.
> I also believe that FH was likely, like his Bene Gesserit, essentially
> atheist or agnostic, although I really have nothing to back that up. I
> feel he didn't include that character as it would be like having the
> Easter Bunny as a B.G. Acolyte. Although FH doesn't include the
> traditional "Guiding/Creating" God, he does reference a "higher plan"
> and the sense that there might be something, other than the described
> characters/groups guiding or influencing things.
Yeah, and he mentioned that "higher plan" because it fits the story.
>
> =A0 with such character as
>
> > sup****ting character you can have a story (remember Q from Star Trek),
> > but not as main character. Unless you limit him/her in some way. But
> > if you do limit the God than it is not the God anymore. So F. Herbert
> > did gave different views about the God and the religion in his
> > stories, because he was describing the human nature. I clearly
> > remember that Chani never thought that Paul was the God nor a god
> > (polytheistic one). She knew he has some strange qualities, but for
> > her he never was a or the god. Same was with Leto II, not a single
> > Bene Gesserit reverent mother considered him a god and definitely not
> > the God. On the other hand, Fish Speakers did. But their opinion did
> > not made him the God.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I think this is what makes GEoD such an interesting
read. =
We, the
> reader, are in on Leto II's "true" nature, even as we watch the reaction
> to his "Godhood" in those around him, especially Nayla and Moneo, who
> should have know better.
Of course it does. F. Herbert is, to my knowledge, only SF author who
applies so much knowledge about human psychology into his characters.
For me that really makes all his work more interesting.
>
> > be forced to believe strangest things. After all, even today you have
> > people which believe that computer or Elvis is god. But every one of
> > them, including a computer or Elvis can be declared gods in
> > polytheistic sense.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Indeed, there are still people who believe in the
Christia=
n God, even
> given the improbable stories and effects laid down the the Bible. Not to
> mention all the other improbable offshoots or original
> gods/demons/controllers/creators, most who seem to have been
> active/visible in earlier times, but who, for now, seem to be happy to
> be invisible.
Ok, I got it. You're not Christian.
The faith in something which is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent,
omnibenevolent can be and will be argued and contra-argued as long as
we human exist, as long as we exist way we exist now. Just I wished
to made point that believing that a computer is a god, Elvis Presley
is a god, or similar person or object is only acceptable to be
mentioned as a joke, in my opinion, simply because it can be proved
that they are not.
But it is the fact that you have a humans who are ready to believe
that. And their believe is not in any way less or insignificant. It is
in the way the exactly the same sentiment the hard core Atheists,
Buddhists, Christians, Muslims, etc. have.( I mentioned atheists as
well because the believe that the God does not exist is believe
itself. There is no scientific prove for or against. So atheists are
believers too.)
and that's why F. Herbert introduced that into his books. to describe
that religious feeling and what people are ready to do because of it.
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> WM
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