"The Sentinel" <Nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "steve horan" <stevehoran2001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > "The Sentinel" <Nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > "steve horan" <stevehoran2001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > I saw Dennis Miller's show tonight and, while
> > > > interviewing Scott Ritter, he had a meltdown
> > > > and started yelling at him.
> > >
> > > That's quite an exaggeration, unless they showed a different version
on
> the
> > > repeat, because I didn't see any meltdown.
> >
> > Aside from on the Bill O'Reilly show, how often
> > do hosts lose control and start yelling at their
> > guests?
>
> Never. Including Dennis Miller's show.
>
> > > > Ritter referred
> > > > to the war in Iraq as "illegitimate" and Miller
> > > > got on his high horse and had a cow - to mix my
> > > > barnyard metaphors. He got very self-righteous
> > >
> > > He was no more self-righteous than Ritter was, arguably less.
Ritter
> seems
> > > to take any disagreement with himself very personally.
> >
> > Referring to our "boys and girls in uniform" who
> > were killed in Iraq in an attempt to shame Ritter
> > is demagoguery; it's emotionally manipulative.
> > It didn't work on Ritter because he's a veteran
> > himself and Miller quickly retreated.
>
> Ritter tried to claim Miller was dishonoring and disrespecting his
miltary
> service by criticising him on this.
I don't remember that happening at all. As I
said in my initial post, Ritter stayed calm and
rational while Miller got emotional.
> Miller insisted that he did respect
> Ritter's service in the military, but he still felt that Ritter's
comments
> were disrespectful to those (and the loved ones of those) who've died in
> Iraq.
>
> > Despite Miller patronizingly referring to him as "Scottie
> > Boy" when he wasn't berating him, Ritter admirably
> > kept his cool and stayed on point.
>
> I agree that calling him Scottie Boy was a little rude. Although I
don't
> believe he was being deliberately rude.
>
> > > No matter what your opinion
> > > is on whether the war was justified in the first place, even Howard
Dean
> > > understands that pulling the troops out at this point would be a
> > > catastrophic mistake that would make things even worse.
> >
> > I think that Ritter favors getting the UN involved
> > as does Dean, if I'm not mistaken.
>
> Dean's on record saying he'd send in more troops, just like Clark. I've
> never heard either of them mutter the mantra used by Kucinich, Sharpton,
> Moore and Ritter of "honoring the troops by bringing them home" (which
is
> pulling out).
>
> > > > This guy used to be a comedian and now he's
> > > > hell bent on becoming another Bill O'Reilly.
> > > > So sad.
> > >
> > > Just because he doesn't agree with you?
> >
> > Yelling at your guests is rude, uncivil behaviour.
>
> He wasn't yelling. He was criticizing his inflammatory choice of words.
> Ritter seems to think he's some kind of hero for being direct and
> confrontational, but like so many antiwar protesters he doesn't seem
have a
> clue that the Michael Moore approach doesn't convince anybody who
doesn't
> already agree with them. Which is a shame, because I think there are
some
> valid points to be made, but they always get lost in accusations that
> America is an imperialistic aggressor, etc. It doesn't do them, their
> argument, or the troops they're concerned about any service.
>
> > Comedians should make light of situations, not
> > heavy.
>
> So you think Miller was being really heavy when he told Ritter that if
we
> pull all the Poles out of Iraq, there'll be no one left to change the
light
> bulbs?
>
> from earlier:
> >His closing shot was to castigate Ritter for his "alacrity with facts"
or
> something. Hello...
> >that's a compliment!
>
> No, his criticism was that he shouldn't be letting "legal-ese, ...and
> alacrity with the facts get in the way of what's right and wrong".
>
> > One should never let facts stand in the way of a good old-fa****oned
WWF-
> > style right-wing tantrum.
>
> He said on his very first show that he was going to take interviewees he
> strongly disagreed with to task. You seem to be distorting things to
make
> him look bad because you disagree with his politics on defence issues.
Well, it seems to me that your opinions are skewed
by your biases.
If he Miller were a liberal, there'd be plenty of
right-wingers out there to take him to task. And
I can't think of a liberal equivalent to Miller to
criticize anyway.
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