Re: What's Love Got to Do With It? NOTHING!!!

On Sun, 16 May 2004 14:11:17 +1000, Matty <kaiwainz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:

>Anne Reynolds wrote:
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>> "Matty" <kaiwainz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:2gmispF4gl7aU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>She'll just simply claim that you are lying, or don't remember due to
>>>>>repressed memories.
>>>>
>>>>As part of my training in therapy work, as a Clinical Psychologist, I
have
>>>>gone through extensive work on myself, part of which was looking at so
>>>>called "repressed memories". This was a fad in the late 80's and early
90's
>>>>which was seen as a panacea of mental health. Mostly nowadays it's
seen for
>>>>what it is, " a get rich quick" scheme for unqualified pratitioners,
along
>>>>with re-birthing abd other bunkum.
>>>
>>>Funny thing about that repressed memory; you have people who've been
failures  
>>>their wholes lives so they pay some quack a few hundred for "repressed
>>>therapy" and then blame some one touching their old fella, which never
>>>actually occurred; as seen in court cases where this "repressed"
bull**** was  
>>>used and later found that the memory was nothing more than imagination
in  
>>>overdrive.
>> 
>> I couldn't agree more with you. Isn't it in Colarado where two women
have
>> just been sentenced to 16 years for using another fad, a rebirthing
>> technique with a 10 year old and killed the poor child.
>> 
>> Anyway, I found the article I was looking for, I'm sorry it's so long,
but
>> it is really very good:-
>> 
>> Mind Games: Psychological Warfare Between Therapists and Scientists
>> http://chronicle.com/free/v49/i25/25b00701.htm
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>The really scary part, this was actually just on Law and Order a few
weeks ago.
>
>I've always said there is a lot of quackery in psychology etc. etc. Too
bad 
>there aren't enough people to challenge it. One thing that I do get
annoyed 
>about is this "pill for every problem" mentality. Sorry, cramming someone

>chocablock full of every anti-depresent will not solve the problem.
Getting at 
>the source/root of the problem and actually addressing it is the way to
solve it.
>
>Its like having a rotting wall and simply painting over it rather than
ripping 
>out the wall and replacing it.
>
>Matty

What's interesting though is the insistence by psychotherapists that
the patient must "discover" the cause of his problems himself, a
process that can, and often does, take years and years of therapy.
One study in about 1974 IIRC compared patient outcome under this
regimen vs. patient outcome when he was just told the likely cause.
It showed there was no measurable difference between the outcomes.
This study has never been repeated if you can believe it.

I suspect the only reason the "self-discovery" regimen is taken is to
provide a reliable cashflow to the therapist.  For such a study not to
have been repeated by even one single psychotherapist speaks volumes.

You might not agree with the diagnosis presented by the shrink, but at
least if he gets up front with it you can dump him fast if he turns
out to be an "alien abductee" quack or whatever.  Some of these guys
are total fruitcakes.