Re: What's Love Got to Do With It? NOTHING!!!

Bard Kesnit <vtcheme@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 	The hormones cost money. A LOT of money. It can take a long
> time for someone to save enough cash to even start the process.

Most people that gets the hormones gets them on welfare or some kinda
government assistance.  They go to a state quack psychologist and
convince him they're really women on the inside - in spite of their
ding-a-ling's.  You can't do that 'til you're 18 - and because of the
cost and other consequences involved - you got to go thru extensive
chit chat therapy before they put you on the drugs that make your
ding-a-ling shrink and your booby's blossom.  What so many of you
queers keep a forgetting is that Eddie didn't always pretend to be a
woman.  In school he signed his name as Eddie Araujo and often
identified hisself as a queer boy that just liked to have *** with
men.  However - he didn't like other tranny's and the fruit cakes
hisself so he decided he wanted to be a girl and do only straight men.
 It was just a sick fantasy for him.  Some people believe they're
aliens or angels or historical figures like Cleopatra and Napoleon. 
These people need help - not indulgence of their fantasy worlds.
 
> 	I guess it depends on how you look at it. She did feel that
> she was a woman - on the inside. 

But not always.  He flipped and flopped between that delusion.  Don't
you believe that some people is just crazy?  And that crazy people
needs help?  His mother coulda took him to a s**** pit for some real
treatment.  I've seen that method work at least a dozen times.

> The fact that her outside didn't match is a side issue. 

Oh you've got to be kidding!  Do you REALLY believe that?  How much of
the psychology of trans ***ualism and gender bending have you studied?
 Do you believe it's possible for a woman to be born with a
ding-a-ling and all the other male fixtures?  Remember - this boy was
supposed to be a Roman Catholic - but it appears he got molested by
one of that organization's MANY homo ***ual/pedophile priests.  That's
what pushed him over the line.  It didn't help that his mother slept
****d with him in the bed sometimes.  He identified with her body. 
She was also promiscuous at one point in her life, and I think he
wanted to be that way too.

> She felt she was a woman.

Perverts feel all kinds of things.  Some FEEL they're God Almighty. 
That doesn't make them so.  Sometimes they got to have their feelers
turned down a little - or off completely.

> 	As I have said many times, although a lot of gays are faithful
> to one partner, not all are. Besides, she was 17! 

There's always some excuse in it for you ain't there?  When I was 17 I
wasn't a carrying on like that.  Was YOU?  Was Sage?  I wonder if old
Bill Baker had started a going to orgy's by then.
 
> 	Oh, and how "monogamous" were the guys who killed her - after
> having *** with her? Great example of hetero***ual behavior, there...

Oh I firmly believe they ought to be put to death too for what they
did to that poor confused little queer boy that couldn't even figure
out what *** he was.  But they sure didn't rape him!  Eddie offered
his dirty mouth and butt hole to two different men in the same night! 
Part of his pleasure was a knowing he was really a little boy a
FOOLING straight men into believing he was a woman.  That girl that
orchestrated the whole thing by a blowing Eddie's cover ought to be
put away too.

> 	For a teenager, sadly, yes.

Well I ain't never met no teenagers like that.  Are you a saying it's
normal for queers to go thru a phase where 1) they don't know what ***
they really are and 2) where they wanna screw around a lot, preferably
in public places, so's they can find out what kind of kink and
weirdness they're really into?  How often do they grow out of it?  How
long did you wanna be a man with a ding-a-ling?  When did you realize
that a tongue was just as good - at least for you and Sage?
 
> 	Getting help probably would have helped. Talking to a
> knowledgeable adult could have helped her work out her self-esteem
> problem.

Do you think that's all Eddie had?  A self esteem problem?  He was
CONFUSED about his own body and the function of its various organs.  I
can't understand why you all rush to the defense of a proven lunatic. 
That boy belonged in a good secure place where he couldn't get into no
***ual trouble until his confusion issue's got straightened out.

Oh and have you all heard the latest commercial for the Dr. Dean Edell
Radio Show?  I'm not sure they play it outside of New Sodom, but it
starts with the music from "Queer Eyes for All Straight Guys".  Then,
the announcer, Heather, asks something like "Are you feeling QUEER? 
Dr. Edell will give it to you STRAIGHT!"  I nearly fell out of my
chair when I heard that.  Old Dr. Edell - who's older than Thurgood
but still a getting around - played like he was surprised at the new
blurb.  On that same station there was some kinda feminist a blasting
the use of "wet shots" in hard core **** movies - which are apparently
a getting lots of them *** stars in trouble with the BUG.  She was a
going on and on right over the radio asking "Why do we have to see men
ejaculatiing all over woman?  What's the thrill of seeing sperm
spurt?"  I'm sure queers just LOVE that kinda dirty talk in public.
 
> 	As I said, that costs a lot of money. You can't just wish your
> way into a new body.

NOR into a different ***!  Are you a saying God made a mistake when He
have Eddie a ding-a-ling?  He sure played with it enough from what I
hear.  And his mother didn't even bother to have that boy cir***cised.
 I thought she wanted to leave the Third World behind when she came to
the Land of Op****tunity to live.
 
> 	She has no memory problems.

That ain't what I asked you.  Most people represses some memory's -
and something had to turn the both of you queer early in life.  I see
you're just rejecting the truth about the real CAUSES of queer and
lesbian lust.
 
> 	You didn't say anything about that. "We share all our
> possessions including a ranch and a farm and a country chapel."

And we're husband and wife too that can pass our property on to our
kids.  Queers can't have kids except thru joint negotiations.  That
ADULTERATES both the blood line and the property rights.  Did you read
that the United Mothodist Church ruled AGAINST homo ***ual
relation****ps - even the so called committed ones?  They know it's
STILL a grave sin in God's eyes.  Now you either need to heed that
ruling or leave the Methodist Church.  Tattoo'd witches don't belong
their no ways.  Tell Sage you're ready for coven work.  She'll
introduce you to the Satanic Circle soon enough.
 
> 	Sure, for the ones who hang out in parks and bars every
> weekend. Those people do NOT represent the entire gay community. They
> don't even represent a majority of the gay community. They are a very
> small minority, actually.

Is that so?  Well your ***PERT friend Bill Baker says it represents
about HALF of the queer communnity?  Why are your figures so different
from his?  Are you all a going to the same parks and *** clubs?  He
says he was a going to an orgy with FIVE other men - and that he hangs
out in gay bars just for the compliments - so I think he would know a
little better than you about how promiscuous MOST queer men is.
 
> 	You do realize couples can make love to show their affection
> for each other, right? It doesn't have to be about procreation.

It should be.  *** without the possibility of procreation is just a
waste of time that God doesn't approve of.
 
> 	<chuckle> I've heard of that happening. Just think - you'll
> get to go through it 14 times!

At least!  I can't wait!  They say it gets a whole lot easier after
number six though.
 
> 	Then you'd better hope he doesn't get sick. You could end up
> in jail for elder abuse!

What do you mean?  He's 60 - not 80!  He's a doing just fine.  If he
gets sick I'll take him to a faith healer and he'll be cured.  When
the Lord's ready to take him home - he'll go without a lot of kicking
and screaming.  He's already seen the mansion God has prepared for him
up there - where his first wife is a waiting for him even now.
 
> 	Unless you are following Thurgood and every member of your
> church around, you are only taking their word for it that they aren't
> doing something "evil" on the side.

I told you before - legally married straight couples develop a special
rap****t that queers can only hope and wish for.  That way I can
connect with Thurgood at any time of the day or night psychically and
feel what he's a feeling.  If he was ever in the arms of some strange
hussy I would know about it.  If you ever managed to turn me queer he
would know about it right away and take steps to have me straightened
out again.  If I ever started a lusting for a younger man with a
bigger, harder ding-a-ling, Thurgood would know about it and rebuke
me.

> 	So you refuse to forgive. You only love them if they do
> exactly what you want. 

No.  It ain't like that.  If they persist in their sin we cut them off
'til they repent.  After that ALL is forgave.  We can't sup****t
somebody that's a living in an openly sinful life style.
 
> 	I really pity your children...

I really pity YOU.  You're a gonna wind up in the fieriest part of
lesbo hell.  Me and my family will dwell forever in a heavenly
mansion.
 
> 	I AM allergic to cigarette smoke. My father smokes. I don't
> shun him. I ask him to go outside to smoke. The friends I have that
> smoke, I make sure I meet them somewhere where I can be "upwind" so to
> speak.

That's fine.  They're a willing to compromise with you.  I said if
your smoker relatives insisted on a smoking in your living room and a
flicking their ashes all over your carpet - essentially a rubbing your
nose in their sin - then you might shun them.  Can you tell me that if
it was cold outside and your daddy wanted to smoke - that you'd let
him do it in your living room?  I got one friend that has smoker
friends that smokes out in the kitchen.  To me that's equally
disgusting.  We ask them to go outside and then lock the door against
them.

Let's try another example.  Smoking ain't all that serious to people
that lives in tobacco country.  Say your mama took ill and your daddy
started a fooling around with some cheap bar floozy to keep him
company while she's laid up in the hospital.  Would you let him bring
his trashy girl friend over to your house?  Wouldn't you shun the both
of them out of respect for your faithful loving mother?  Now I ain't a
saying your daddy's nothing like that - and the ***ual libertine you
are you might be the one to introduce your daddy to the young thing in
the first place - but I still think there's some moral ground that you
still yet recognize.  What if you had a relative that wanted to stash
cocaine in your apartment?  Or wanted to use your phone line to run a
call girl service?
  
> 	To tie all that back to the original topic, I don't shun
> people. 

No - you invite them in for dinner no matter WHAT kind of abominations
they commit!  Do you have a lot of dope addicts and whores for
friends?

> If I don't like what they are doing, I ask them to please keep
> it away from me. 

And what if they refuse?  That's how shunning starts - although it
might be a TAD more forceful.  My daddy said, "Now Eva, we SEEN the
empty beer bottles under your bed.  You KNOW that's sinful behavior
that doesn't please the Lord.  We KNOW you're a keeping company with
Junior Cadwall down at the Cork 'n' Bottle Tavern and you KNOW he's
married to Floribunda and that she's got cancer of the private parts
and can't give him none of what he wants.  Now you either clean up
your act or people's a gonna talk about you and shame the whole
family.  No decent woman that goes to Church at 11 AM on Sunday should
leave early to be at the Cork 'n' Bottle by two."  He offered her
counseling and fixed her up with decent friends she could spend
quality time with around the Church.  Mama taught her how to quilt,
and eventually that made a difference in her life.  What helped most
was when Mother Holiness found her a strict husband that could keep
her in line.

> But I won't stop speaking to a friend if they don't.

Well - we still speak the Word of God to shunned relatives - or listen
if they wanna reason with us or repent - but casual conversation is
out.  They've cut THEIRSELVES off from God's People with their wicked
behavior.
  
> 	I would hope people don't have desire for their children!

With the queers you never know.  The point is that decent straight
couples really love each other.  Queer couples only seethe in animal
lust.  Father Holiness says it's filthy DOG lust.  He usually spells
it "DAWG" in the "Kingdom Come!"
 
> 	If that is what it took to clean her up, yes. But I would love
> her no matter what.

We still love shunned relatives.  We just keep away from them.  Now if
Aunt Eva got hit by a car or something and put daddy down as her only
relative - of course he would go see her and take care of her. 
Hopefully that would teach her how God feels about her a fooling
around with married drunks at sleazy bars.  I don't think she ever had
*** with this man - but she did play pinochle with him and have him
over to her house for a beer.  Good Christians don't do such things. 
That poor man's wife was on chemotherapy and wouldn't go out of the
house on account of she was so thin and bald.  My mama went over to
console HER - but she wouldn't speak to Junior Cadwall on account of
he was a sinner.  He eventually wound up in jail for book making. 
Haw!  Haw!  Haw!
 
> 	So basically, laying on of hands.

No - deep prayer and healing sessions.  Sometimes we do exorcisms. 
Once this man in our Church found one of them whirly gizmo's in his
daughter's bed.  The whole house was full of demons and **** pictures
of men cut from vulgar magazines.  The whole house had to be
exorcised.  The girl had to shun her wicked friends but the parents
didn't shun her at all.  In fact they ministered unto her and had her
long lost maidenhead surgically restored so's she wouldn't be no tramp
on her wedding night.
  
> 	If you loved them, you would love them no matter what. You
> wouldn't shun them.

Don't confuse love with indulgence.  Good people separate theirselves
from evil and the people that works evil.  If you give in to sin it
takes over your life.  Just look at you.
 
> 	I'll see if I have any pictures where you can see the front of
> me. 

That would be real nice.  Are you pretty?  If your hair's still short
I think it might be a good idea for you to wear a nice wig when you go
out with Bill Baker.
 
> 	I wasn't talking about you. I don't know what lurkers are
> reading these posts. 

You know - if you got a good relation****p with the Lord Jesus - which
naturally no queer does - He protects you from people like that.  You
should see all the people that wants to hurt and maim and kill me on
account of I work so hard to get their *** clubs and dope dens shut
down.  But every time the Lord intervenes and keeps me safe.
 
> 	She doesn't have much free time. She leaves for work at 7AM,
> gets home around 6:30 PM, eats dinner, walks the dogs (she has 2),
> watches some TV, and goes to sleep.

Seven days a week?  What about church?  
 
> 	I don't think there is one of those where she lives.

But you ain't sure HUH?  They got chapters all over - and they may go
by different names in different states.  I think they had a group down
in Valdosta - do you know where that it? - name of the Purple Plum. 
Apparently a juicy plum is supposed to be a lot like a turned on
lesbian's ***ual organ - and lesbians all over recognize the symbol. 
Some may use plums in their *** rituals.  I wouldn't know.  I can only
hope they ain't quite so drippy as that.

> Bard Kesnit

Alias Smith and Jones!

I'll pray for ALL of you -


Sister Lurlean Tucker
True Fire Baptized Christian