On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 12:40:00 GMT, Boom <mmm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 10:01:17 GMT, tomstdenis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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>>It's getting a bit tiresome seeing one misguided American after another
with
>>their cutsie little yellow or red-white-blue ribbons on their outsized
SUVs.
>>Yeah, I guess it's the thing to do; maybe part of that whole soccer-mom
>>culture. Unfortunately, the only thing they demonstrate is that the
person
>>behind the wheel is a clueless, gullible, misguided, nitwit.
>>
>>If foreign invaders landed on our soil, as we have done in Iraq, I would
be
>>the first one to take up arms and repel them. (I suppose that would make
me
>>an 'insurgent' by OUR logic.) This, and other aggressive governments
have
>>always done their utmost to make it APPEAR as if committing yourself to
kill
>>in feuds on distant shores that have nothing to do with the welfare of
the
>>citizenry is somehow patriotic.
>>
>>It is not.
>>
>>Enlisting in the armed forces, in the absence of a real and impending
>>foreign threat, is no different that hiring yourself as a paid assassin
. .
>>the only difference is, you're not getting paid enough. But let's take a
>>realistic look at exactly WHO joins up in an all-volunteer army.
>>
>>The first group are those who join (during peacetime) for the benefits:
to
>>get an education, or because it seems a reasonable career path. Consider
>>carefully! Realize that you are gambling with your humanity. Once you
sign
>>that form, you sign away your right to say: "No, that is an atrocity."
You
>>put your abilities, including the ability to kill, at the disposal of
proven
>>liars, psychopaths . . . enemies of humanity. Do you think that every
German
>>soldier in World War II who helped load Jews into cattle cars was a
>>cold-blooded killer? Most were poor kids, just like you, who got caught
up
>>in the patriotic frenzy. Once you're in, you're IN. You lose the ability
to
>>stop killing until they tell you so. This not only makes you less than
>>human, it makes you less than an animal, for even the animals retain
their
>>freedom of self determination.
>>
>>The second group are the simple minded, who fall for patriotic
entreaties
>>about defending democracy, Mom, apple pie; in other words, all the
>>traditional government propaganda. Do you think Soviet lads subjugated
their
>>neighbors throughout the world because they thought the Soviet Union was
an
>>EVIL empire? No, they were fighting for MOM, and whatever p***** for
apple
>>pie in Russia. Step back and examine the lies your government is handing
>>you, and ask yourself if they have the ring of truth. Do you want to be
one
>>of the murderers in uniform who opened up on their fellow citizens at
Kent
>>State? When you put on that uniform, you give up all autonomy, and
become
>>nothing more than a weapon, to be used for whatever evil purposes the
>>scoundrels in government demand (and, if you look carefully, you will
>>discover that the only interests THEY serve are those of the big
businesses
>>that own them.)
>>
>>Finally, you have the hard-core psychopaths. These are the people who
WANT
>>to kill. Murder, torture, rape; THESE are the American values upon which
>>THIS group is focused. The cause doesn't matter, they're after the
thrill
>>that only warfare can provide.
>>
>>Just remember: killing for George W. Bush, or for George H.W. Bush, or
for
>>Lyndon B. Johnson, or for Richard M. Nixon is not the same as defending
>>yourself, your family, your friends, or your country. Don't be a dupe.
Don't
>>Enlist!
>>
>>Remember -- sup****ting the troops means sup****ting Bush aggression,
>>profiteering, and war crimes. Here's an idea: why not take those
ribbons,
>>dip them in blood, and mail them to the White House?
>
>ZZZZZZZ...ZZZZZZZ...ZZZZ...er...did someone say something stupid?
>
>Yes, dip ribbons in blood, send them to the White House, then get a
>lawyer because you will need one when the Secret Service comes to your
>house and arrests you for sending threatening mail to the President.
>Dumbass.
>
>Hey douchebag, what makes you think you have a corner on the truth? I
>don't like our guys getting shot any more than you do, but I'd go to
>Iraq and serve my country and take a few iraqi terrorists out myself
>if I wasn't too old to serve. I guess it's OK for Saddam to send cash
>awards to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers as incentive for
>them to blow bombs off and kill women and children riding buses and
>eating pizza. I guess it's OK for Saddam to gas his own people using
>the weapons of mass destruction that pussies like you claim he never
>had. I guess it's OK for him to tell UN inspectors to **** off until
>he's had a chance to move all his WMD operations out of the country.
>Saddam has ties to terrorism all over the world, and if not Al-qaeda
>directly, with the PLO and Syria. Oh, and many of your ***** liberal
>politicians were in complete agreement with Bush sending troops over
>there and were quite happy to send troops over there to get shot at
>and die until it was election time.
>
>Ever think that maybe a lot of the people there think that Bush was
>right to send them and they're glad to be serving their country, even
>if they're not happy about getting shot at? Oh, I forgot...they
>can't, because you said they can't. And I hope you rot in hell for
>comparing our fighting men and women to Nazis. Go **** yourself.
>****ing college student idiot. You make me puke.
>
>I'm getting goddamn good and sick of hearing how evil we are by our
>own ****ing citizenry. There's not a more charitable country on earth
>than the US, and it makes me sick that US citizens compare us to Nazis
>and communists. You know what? You don't like it, the US
>Constitution guarantees you the right to form a militia and take arms
>against this "injustice." Just don't be surprised when you get shot
>by a real American who's as disgusted by your bull**** as I am, you
>****ing whining *****!
>
>I guess I'll be forever ostracized from alt.fan.devo for this rant,
>but it's time you liberal de-evolutionists heard a little bit from a
>Devo fan who's not scared to disagree with Jerry Casale.
Well said. I can't think of much to add to your comments. Maybe clean
up the language a bit , but I would be thinking the same thing you
are. I've been around for a good while and I've heard from wimps like
this guy since the early 60's.
I got spit at , cursed and called everything form a baby killer to
rapist after my tour in the military from 66-68 by ***holes like this
one.
When I stepped off a train in Philly in 1968 , after fini****ng my
tour. there was about 12-15 ofof these cowards standing there making
fun of my uniform and the usual bull**** that comes from them. I was
so sick of hearing their mindless babble that I waded into the middle
of them and not one would take me on , they just ran. I can't tell
you haw much I wanted them to stay and duke it out.
I wanted so much to hit one or all of them so bad........much more
than I wanted to hurt anyone overseas.
Some of these people are more of an enemy than those we fight
sometimes , at least in my opinion.
Woody
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