Re: I Denounce

>>>>> Ernst Blofeld writes:

   Ernst> On Jun 28, 1:20 pm, <ah...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
   >>    >>    Ernst> In fact, people outside the US may have non-existent
or severely
   >>    >>    Ernst> attenuated "rights", even in peacetime, and even
less so during
   >>    >>
   >>    >> This is a very sick notion.
   >> 
   >>    Ernst> So you _do_ think that people outside the US have a
federal court-
   >>    Ernst> enforceable right to, for example, search warrants? The
CIA has do do
   >>    Ernst> a knock-and-announce before they break into an Iranian
plutonium plant
   >>    Ernst> to steal secrets?
   >> 
   >> I think everyone has the same fundamental rights.  Of course in the
obscene statement
   >> of yours that I replied to, there was no qualification about
Federal.

   Ernst> Well, are search warrants a fundamental right? It's right there
in the
   Ernst> bill of rights. I'm
   Ernst> wondering which rights you think are fundamental. You keep on
   Ernst> inartfully dodging.

Itemizing fundamental rights is a bit of a silly exercise.  Life, liberty
and the
pursuit of happiness is a good place to start for the principles.

   >> And the original context was about people being locked up by US
forces.  Their
   >> nationality or place of detention is irrelevant to them having the
fundamental
   >> right to challenge their detention.

   Ernst> As a matter of fact, the case struck down extensive procedural
rights
   Ernst> created
   Ernst> by congress to do exactly that.

The rules were fundamentally flawed.

   Ernst> How about detaining people on a foreign battlefield? Detaining
foreign
   Ernst> nationals of a hostile power on US soil?



-- 
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.dan-quayle...)


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