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Re: Another Obama Whopper

by Ernst Blofeld <blofeld42@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 25, 2008 at 08:53 PM

On Jun 25, 8:22=A0pm, Spartakus <sparta...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> > All contributions to the campaign are capped at $2,300 per person.
>
> And most of Obama=92s contributors have sent much less than $2,300. =A0I
> wasn=92t kidding when I said *small* contributors.

You think a presidential candidate is going to do a favor for someone
because they donated $2,300 instead of $230 out of a total campaign
budget of $200 million?

> > Obama's claim the 527's will outspend him is risible; Democrats
> > heavily outspent Republicans in this area in the last election cycle,
> > and will again in the next.
>
> Do***ent or retract.

http://www.wa****ngtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/31/AR200605310=
1999.html
---
In the 2004 presidential campaign...
Committees aligned with the Democratic Party outspent their GOP
competitors $320 million to $109 million, according to the Campaign
Finance Institute.
---

http://www.creators.com/opinion/mark-****elds.html?columnsName=3Dmsh
---
Here are the numbers: The 527 spending has heavily favored Democrats
over Republicans in every election cycle since 2000. In 2004,
Democratic-leaning 527 groups spent $316 million to Republican-leaning
527s' $113 million. So far in 2008, the 527 spending has been $116
million to $69 million in favor of the Democrats.
---

Are we supposed to believe that Obama won't recall who gave money to
his 527's if elected?

> The question was qualified =96 =93and your major opponents agree to
forgo
> private funding in the general election campaign=94. =A0The McCain
> campaign made no such agreement.

McCain had made exactly the same statement as Obama: that we would
accept public funding if his opponent did. Obama promised to
"aggressively pursue" an agreement with the other candidate to accept
public funding. He did no such thing--as soon as he saw it would
clearly be to his advantage to refuse public money, his promise became
inoperative.

> > > 3. He has no reason to believe that McCain and his campaign will
> > > even obey the current campaign finance law.
> > Ditto. Simply claim, based on no evidence, that the other guy will
> > violate the law.
>
> There is no question that the McCain campaign is violating campaign
> finance law right now! =A0John McCain's signature is on the do***ent
> that enables him to use public financing =A0for his primary campaign.
> That obliges him to limit the amount of private funds he can raise.
> He has raised far more than is allowed by the law - base on
> legislation *he* sponsored. =A0All the handwaving in the world won=92t
> change that.

Uh, no.
http://www.wa****ngtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/22/AR200803220=
2218_2.html
---
So has McCain broken the law? The answer is far from simple, depending
on whether he has withdrawn from the public matching program.

McCain's lawyers argue that the spending cap no longer applies. The
Arizona senator was certified to enter the program last year when he
was starved for cash. But once he started to win, he decided to hold
off. On Feb. 6, after his Super Tuesday victories, he wrote to the FEC
to announce he would withdraw. His lawyers said that gave him freedom
to spend as much as he wanted.

But Federal Election Commission Chairman David Mason wrote McCain's
campaign last month to alert him that the commission had not yet
granted that withdrawal request, and that the commission would first
need to vote on the matter. A snag: The FEC has four vacancies and
therefore lacks a quorum to consider the matter.
=2E..
"The FEC regulations specifically state that candidates who do not
receive public funding payments from the U. S. Treasury are exempt
from the primary spending ceiling," a senior McCain official said in
an e-mail.
---

So why hasn't the FEC voted on the McCain do***ent? Because they don't
have a quorum. Why don't they have a quorum? Because Obama, in his
role as senator, has blocked the nomination process for FEC
commisioners.


> Why should Obama tie one hand behind his back before getting in a
> fight with someone who has no intention of fighting fair? =A0(I asked
> this question in my previous response and you deleted it. =A0Hmmm=85)

Because it was dumb, and presupposes that which is to be shown?
 



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Another Obama Whopper
Ernst Blofeld <blofeld  2008-06-19 12:15:29 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Stevie Nichts <nix2nic  2008-06-19 17:55:12 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Ernst Blofeld <blofeld  2008-06-20 12:50:49 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Stevie Nichts <nix2nic  2008-06-20 16:07:03 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Spartakus <spartakus@[  2008-06-20 20:46:09 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Ernst Blofeld <blofeld  2008-06-20 22:20:58 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
4095 Dead <zepp2211409  2008-06-20 23:29:37 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Steve <stevencanyon@[E  2008-06-21 13:26:58 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Spartakus <spartakus@[  2008-06-21 07:20:09 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Ernst Blofeld <blofeld  2008-06-21 08:46:34 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Ernst Blofeld <blofeld  2008-06-21 08:54:10 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-06-21 09:06:01 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Ernst Blofeld <blofeld  2008-06-21 13:23:19 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Steve <stevencanyon@[E  2008-06-21 17:49:31 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Ernst Blofeld <blofeld  2008-06-21 13:30:45 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-06-21 14:02:09 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Ernst Blofeld <blofeld  2008-06-21 14:06:55 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Spartakus <spartakus@[  2008-06-22 16:58:16 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Ernst Blofeld <blofeld  2008-06-23 00:47:07 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-06-23 09:29:17 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Ernst Blofeld <blofeld  2008-06-23 17:36:33 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-06-23 18:04:50 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Ernst Blofeld <blofeld  2008-06-23 19:39:15 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Stevie Nichts <nix2nic  2008-06-24 05:12:08 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-06-24 09:43:48 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Spartakus <spartakus@[  2008-06-25 20:22:23 
Re: Another Obama Whopper
Ernst Blofeld <blofeld  2008-06-25 20:53:01 

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