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Re: Brother, have you been converted?

by huey.callison@[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 20, 2008 at 07:16 PM

Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Opus the Penguin <opusthepenguin+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > (huey.callison@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) wrote:
> >> Suppose the building owner / building management / condo
> >> association makes a sweetheart deal with one of the cable
> >> companies, so cable that for a single-family house would be a
> >> competitive choice on either price or features is now locked in for
> >> the residents, and potentially at a higher fee than they'd
> >> otherwise pay, and that deal precludes OTA or satellite antennas.
> >> Suddenly, your choices go from being between a couple different
> >> cable and satelite companies (any of which are cost and
> >> feature-competitive) or OTA (which costs you an antenna and some
> >> wire) to one company or rabbit ears that don't get anything.
> >> Suddenly, simply by virtue of living in a multi-unit building,
> >> you've been locked into paying more for a monopoly service, or
> >> getting degraded service on the otherwise free airwaves. That's
> >> anticompetitive and unfair. The law forces that building owner /
> >> building management / condo association to allow you to have the
> >> same choices you'd have in a single-family home. 
> >The coup de grace is when management pays the fees out of the rent or
> >the association dues and tells you cable TV is "free".
> It's a democracy.

No, it's not, it's a building. If it's a one-owner apartment building,
the residents have no say. If it's a condo or co-op, owners may have
some or all of a vote, but renters still have no say. If it's an 
exclusively owner-occupied building, owners may have some or all of a 
vote, but those votes still leave the minority screwed. 

> The strata council is hired by you.

Bees are in the what now? Have you ever lived in an apartment building 
anywhere in the US? 

-- 
Huey
 




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Brother, have you been converted?
Estron <estron@[EMAIL   2008-05-12 09:29:02 
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Veronique <veroniqueun  2008-05-12 07:52:29 
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"Roy Smith" <  2008-05-12 11:02:07 
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Mary <mrfeathers@[EMAI  2008-05-12 09:08:53 
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Paul L. Madarasz <madp  2008-05-12 10:43:46 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-12 17:22:14 
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Pushmi-Pullyu <PullmiP  2008-05-12 13:21:29 
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mike muth <mike.muth@[  2008-05-21 19:23:19 
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Les Albert <lalbert1@[  2008-05-12 08:25:07 
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ebenZEROONE@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-12 19:07:41 
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NadCixelsyd <nadcixels  2008-05-12 12:15:36 
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xhoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-12 19:38:59 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-15 20:38:54 
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xhoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-16 15:13:42 
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Les Albert <lalbert1@[  2008-05-12 12:37:31 
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NadCixelsyd <nadcixels  2008-05-14 13:26:21 
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Jim Ellwanger <usenet@  2008-05-14 22:18:41 
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Les Albert <lalbert1@[  2008-05-15 08:02:46 
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NadCixelsyd <nadcixels  2008-05-16 07:44:15 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-16 21:56:16 
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Bob Ward <bobward@[EMA  2008-05-16 19:34:29 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-16 20:56:40 
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Bob Ward <bobward@[EMA  2008-05-16 20:07:53 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-16 21:41:17 
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"Don K" <dk@  2008-05-17 01:26:19 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-17 16:43:30 
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Peter Ward <me@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 09:03:33 
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huey.callison@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-18 14:56:05 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-20 17:56:31 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-20 12:04:01 
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huey.callison@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-20 19:16:45 
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xhoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-21 02:43:20 
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Les Albert <lalbert1@[  2008-05-20 19:55:45 
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bill van <billvan@[EMA  2008-05-20 23:21:53 
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huey.callison@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-20 19:29:58 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-21 08:24:43 
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Rick B. <deepstblu@[EM  2008-05-21 08:17:41 
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bill van <billvan@[EMA  2008-05-21 19:26:33 
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bill van <billvan@[EMA  2008-05-21 19:23:36 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-21 13:43:11 
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N Jill Marsh <njmarsh@  2008-05-21 17:00:00 
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xhoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-29 19:37:45 
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Les Albert <lalbert1@[  2008-05-21 14:16:22 
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bill van <billvan@[EMA  2008-05-21 22:05:55 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-21 18:30:30 
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"Don K" <dk@  2008-05-17 01:11:27 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-17 16:40:30 
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"Don K" <dk@  2008-05-16 22:38:19 
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Les Albert <lalbert1@[  2008-05-16 21:46:50 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-16 20:43:23 
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Les Albert <lalbert1@[  2008-05-16 21:45:01 
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Jim Ellwanger <usenet@  2008-05-17 21:03:28 
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Bill Turlock <"Bi  2008-05-17 22:52:37 
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ebenZEROONE@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-18 07:07:40 
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ebenZEROONE@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-18 06:07:41 
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Peter Ward <me@[EMAIL   2008-05-18 10:47:34 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-20 17:51:06 
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Peter Ward <me@[EMAIL   2008-05-20 20:50:34 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-18 13:24:58 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-18 18:31:39 
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Jim Ellwanger <usenet@  2008-05-18 20:52:33 
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Nick Spalding <spaldin  2008-05-19 09:00:59 
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ebenZEROONE@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-19 17:07:39 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-21 19:31:20 
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"Don K" <dk@  2008-05-21 23:00:51 
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Nick Spalding <spaldin  2008-05-22 08:30:11 
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groo <afcagroo@[EMAIL   2008-05-24 05:23:49 
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Nick Spalding <spaldin  2008-05-24 08:10:27 
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Bill Turlock <"Bi  2008-05-16 17:09:52 
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xhoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-12 15:36:55 
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msb@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-05-12 11:06:45 
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danny burstein <dannyb  2008-05-12 17:22:40 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-12 20:15:13 
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Lars Eighner <usenet@[  2008-05-12 13:10:01 
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"ZBicyclist" &l  2008-05-12 20:45:58 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 15:06:45 
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"Rick B." <d  2008-05-12 23:42:17 
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ebenZEROONE@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-13 00:07:40 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 19:24:47 
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danny burstein <dannyb  2008-05-13 02:54:05 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-12 21:15:00 
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Bill Turlock <"Bi  2008-05-12 23:28:16 
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ebenZEROONE@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-13 07:07:42 
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"Rick B." <d  2008-05-13 11:36:17 
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Bill Turlock <"Bi  2008-05-13 10:52:54 
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ebenZEROONE@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-13 19:07:41 
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Bill Turlock <"Bi  2008-05-14 17:06:17 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-13 18:25:21 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-13 22:45:16 
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Jim Ellwanger <usenet@  2008-05-12 19:46:14 
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