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Re: Object

by Peter Ward <me@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 19, 2008 at 07:11 PM

On Mon, 19 May 2008 11:15:56 -0600, Greg Goss wrote:

>ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Charles Bishop) wrote:
>
>>In article <69ddg5F3242pvU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, gossg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>>
>>>Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>But the disks were quite different.  
>>>... than the spiral disk used to standardize the hole in a 45 RPM
>>>record.  The disks matched the Star Trek gun.
>>
>>Just to clarify, the disks for the 45 records weren't so much to
>>standardize the size of the hole, but were meant to allow the records to
>>be played on a turntable that had a small diameter spindle. The 45 rpm
>>records had a hole that was, from memory, about 2"[1] in diameter. The
>>disk, when inserted, meant the records could be played on a player with
a
>>spindle that was about 1/4"[2] in diameter.
>>
>>What I don't know is why the 45rpm records were produced with a larger
>>hole to begin with. It may have been because the first players for them
>>had the larger spindle, but now it's chicken/egg and I don't know why
this
>>would have been done.
>
>The version I heard was that the inventor of the 45 RPM was
>deliberately trying to make their records different from the LP/33 RPM
>format that someone else was developing.  To me the 1.4 inch hole was
>the standard and the 45 departed from it.

I thought it was just to make it easier to load singles on jukebox
turntables, but your description sounds just as possible.

Over here, singles (I bought my first one in, umm, 1963) had the large
centre filled in and had a normal centre hole.  It was often possible
to punch out the centre section of the label (connected only by three
small plastic tags to the rest) to give the larger hole.  I bought
some singles from ex-jukebox racks and they all had the centre punched
out like this.  Adapters for playing with a small centre hole were as
the picture showed, or could be a three-legged piece of plastic.

My turntable includes its own adapter for playing singles with the
large hole.

-- 

Peter

I'm an alien
email: groups at asylum dot nildram dot co dot uk
There has to be a pun in this somewhere
- Mary
 




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