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Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?

by bill van <billvan@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 19, 2008 at 04:49 AM

In article <g0otck$je6$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Paul Ciszek) wrote:

> In article <Xns9AA26B10386A2whhvans@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> HVS  <usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >On 18 May 2008, Paul Ciszek wrote
> >
> >> 
> >> In article <f6eu24tqhb06ipgu7cjm3cl7a1a9pblpin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >> Binyamin Dissen  <postingid@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080516/od_nm/rough***_dc_1
> >>> 
> >>> The victim claims that there was no assault.
> >> 
> >> Many victims of domestic abuse claim that there was no assault,
> >> through one ER visit after another,  Some states have passed laws
> >> saying that the ER staff has to re****t it and the cops have to
> >> investigate no matter what the victim says.
> >
> >Didn't this also come up some years ago with dealing with on-
> >field/on-rink s****ts violence?  ("The teams agree that what happens 
> >on the field happens on the field."  "Doesn't matter:  assault is 
> >assault, and we can charge you.")
> 
> Wasn't some Canadian player charged for going beyond "unnecessary
> roughness" with one of the Colorado Avalanche?  Is that the case
> to which you are refering?

There have been other cases, but the highest-profile one occurred in 
March of 2004, when Todd Bertuzzi of the Vancouver Canucks punched Steve 
Moore of the Avalanche in the side of the head from behind, then climbed 
on his back -- Bertuzzi weighted 240 pounds or more -- and fell to the 
ice on top of Moore, who hit face-first. Moore hasn't played since, 
though whether that is because he fractured three neck vertebrae in the 
incident, or because he was a marginal NHL player who wouldn't have much 
of a career in any case is debatable.

Bertuzzi was suspended for a period covering about half a million worth 
of salary, and has since gone from all-star to marginal player himself. 
His team was fined $250,000 for failing to restrain him.

In criminal court, he pleaded guilty to assault and was given a 
suspended sentence and put on probation.

A civil suit by Moore has yet to be heard.

What set the incident off was a game several weeks earlier in which 
Moore had elbowed Canucks captain Marcus Naslund in the head after play 
had stopped, giving him a concussion. No penalty was *****sed, and there 
was a sense that since the referee hadn't punished the crime, the 
Canucks were out for revenge.

In the four years since, Naslund has not been half the player he was 
before the incident. Arguably, it ended up wrecking three players' 
hockey careers.

-- 
bill
remove my country for e-mail
 




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Can one "assault" a willing victim?
Binyamin Dissen <posti  2008-05-17 22:59:14 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
Shawn Wilson <ikonoqla  2008-05-17 15:01:09 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
plausible prose man <G  2008-05-17 17:43:14 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-18 09:26:50 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
HVS <usenet@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-18 10:31:29 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-18 09:37:24 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
HVS <usenet@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-18 11:05:29 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
bill van <billvan@[EMA  2008-05-19 04:49:45 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-19 00:07:25 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
xhoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-18 22:09:42 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-19 03:10:53 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
plausible prose man <G  2008-05-18 21:27:51 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-18 17:47:11 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
xhoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-18 22:02:08 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
TedTheCat <tedthecat85  2008-05-18 15:58:24 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
"cycjec"<cyc  2008-05-20 10:40:17 
Re: Can one "assault" a willing victim?
Binyamin Dissen <posti  2008-05-20 15:19:52 

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