Paul Ciszek <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> In article <482ec660$0$11211$6c5eefc5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> Raven-Poe <raven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> >There's not much that can be done: untill Iraq is settled on way or the
> >other, we're overextended. That's _why_ Iran is making thier nuclear
bid
> >right now and rattling thier sabers. So the best thing to do wrt Iran
is
> >to settle the Iraq situation: we win and we can deal with Iran from a
> >position of power (isolate, sanction, etc),
> What exactly would constitute a "win" in Iraq?
The smae osrt of thing that constituted a win in the philipoines a century
ago: stability and normalcy.
> Surely not a democracy representative of the Iraqi people, because the
> Iraqi people would then vote in an Islamic theocracy.
Proove that. They might do such a thing, but I'm not nearly so sure.
> In fact, the
> US has a history of overthrowing democratically elected governments
> that represent their own constituents rather than the interests of
> the US.
Yes, yes, I'm well aware that you 'hate America' (to use the trite
phrase:) .
> I have heard some conservatives say that their definition of a "win"
> is "the people who hate us are dead". But killing off six billion
> people isn't a very workable solution either.
If youre background info is accurate, (that six B hate us) then we've
already lost and that's that. I rather think that you're drasticly wrong.
Indeed, when looked at along a simple, favourable/unfavourable split,
focusing on just president Bush, not even six billion are in the
unvaourable, let alone "hate".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2994924.stm
The survey of 11 countries - for the television programme What The World
Thinks of America, to be aired this week in the UK - revealed that 57% of
the sample had a very unfavourable, or fairly unfavourable attitude
towards the American President.
John
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