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Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along

by ebenZEROONE@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hactar) May 15, 2008 at 07:07 PM

In article <Xns9A9F65A822B4Bscouroldcerealbowls@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Scour Old Cereal Bowls  <scouroldcerealbowls@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Does anyone know how the shuffle function on car stereos work?  My car 
> stereo takes Mp3 CDs.  I have a CD with about 200 MP3s on it.  It's not 
> organized in any particular way with files classified in albums or put
into 
> folders or anything.  However, the player when it's in Shuffle mode
doesn't 
> seem all that random.  

They're probably all different and all proprietary.  On my CD player
(200-disc carousel), it would pick a random disc, and then choose a
random song within that disc.  So I'd spend a lot more time listening to
_Thick as a Brick_ (one track) than I would listening to something from
the the first two Simon and Garfunkel CDs (2 albums and 20-some tracks
each).  (I took _TaaB_ out... I don't like it _that_ much.)

MP3s don't come in albums, but it's conceivable it could choose a random
(equally weighted) folder, then a random (equally weighted) file within
that folder.  Careful analysis over many hours of play or simulated play
would probably lead you to figure it out.

It could take into account the tracks' running time.  If it deals well
with VBR, this would involve scanning every file.  If not, it would only
require reading the bitrate and size.

> For example, it recently has started about half of the time on Track 77.
 
> It then generally plays a random song, but within the first 3 or 4 songs

> after that, it will play one of three or four particular songs, which 
> aren't related in any way that I can tell, and don't have track numbers 
> which are related to each other, as far as I can tell, such as being 
> adjacent on the disc, or all ending in 0, or anything like that.

Pseudo-random algorithms are hard to do well.

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 21 Posts in Topic:
MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
Scour Old Cereal Bowls &l  2008-05-15 13:59:46 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-15 09:04:38 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-15 15:35:38 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
Jim Ellwanger <usenet@  2008-05-15 18:48:54 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
ebenZEROONE@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-15 19:07:40 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
John Hatpin <RemoveThi  2008-05-16 05:46:52 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
ebenZEROONE@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-16 07:07:41 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
Neal Eckhardt <neckhar  2008-05-16 09:23:18 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
ebenZEROONE@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-16 18:07:40 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
Neal Eckhardt <neckhar  2008-05-16 14:47:33 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
Mikko Peltoniemi <mikk  2008-05-16 19:27:57 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
"Rick B." <d  2008-05-17 00:16:18 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-16 19:19:16 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
QueBarbara <que.barbar  2008-05-16 20:28:52 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
ebenZEROONE@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-17 01:07:41 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
Peter Ward <me@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 19:38:11 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
groo <afcagroo@[EMAIL   2008-05-25 03:44:07 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
Peter Ward <me@[EMAIL   2008-05-25 09:35:56 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
ebenZEROONE@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-25 18:07:39 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
Mikko Peltoniemi <mikk  2008-05-15 16:53:41 
Re: MP3 Player Shufflin' Along
Shawn Wilson <ikonoqla  2008-05-15 16:43:27 

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