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Re: Is she toast?

by spam.sc@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (S. Checker) May 15, 2008 at 02:58 PM

"Bill Bonde { ''the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack'')"
<tributyltinpaint@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> "S. Checker" wrote:
>> 
>> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )"
<tributyltinpaint@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >>
>> > There were at least as many countries involved in Bush's 2003 Iraq
>> > effort as were in the Balkans one under Clinton.
>> 
>> Five countries participated (sent troops) in the invasion of Iraq: The
>> US, Austria, Poland, the UK and Denmark.
>> 
> The Coalition of the Willing included, just in Europe, also Italy
> and Spain and Bulgaria. How many countries were in NATO in the
> Clinton years? That's all we have to do, compare that number to the
> number that were part of this even in sup****t from the government.

Why do we have to do that? Why not just compare the number of countries
that sent troops and materiel? I repeat, five countries sent troops to
invade Iraq.

> 
>> The United States, the UK, Belgium, Denmark, Holland, Turkey, Spain,
>> Italy, France, and Germany all fought in the Balkans. Would you care to
>> restate your point?
>> 
> Which countries provided substantial force?
>
> The fact is, isn't it,
> that only the US, UK and France have "substantial force" to provide
> and that the US provided the vast bulk of the air power during the
> actual war, which was mainly an air war. So if six people show up
> from Poland or Honduras, it's the standing with the US that counts,
> not the numbers, isn't that right?

Here's the European makeup of the IFOR group; I selected this since I
couldn't easily find UNPROFOR or KFOR stats. You want to find them, go
ahead.

Canada	1500	4%
Denmark	800	2%
France	7500	21%
Germany	4000	11%
Greece	1000	3%
Italy	2200	6%
Luxembourg	300	1%
The Netherlands	2060	6%
Norway	750	2%
****tugal	900	2%
Spain	1000	3%
Turkey	1300	4%
UK	13000	36%

So yeah, Luxembourg wasn't pulling its weight. 

It was an air war, as you point out, and all of the countries I first
listed, plus Canada, sent fighters and/or bombers. That alone seems a
substantial contribution.

-- 
SHE TOOK ON A WHOLE GANG! A howling hellcat humping a hot steel hog on a
roaring rampage of revenge!
                -- Bury Me an Angel (1972)
 




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Is she toast?
Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-07 22:57:55 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-07 23:18:01 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 00:11:05 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-07 23:37:54 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:43:30 
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raven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 02:58:34 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 20:44:52 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 16:25:16 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-09 01:02:04 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-09 00:21:04 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-09 00:56:41 
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raven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-10 01:13:14 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-10 14:08:15 
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raven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 22:21:35 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 17:46:41 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 16:36:25 
Re: historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
Shawn Wilson <ikonoqla  2008-05-15 10:40:01 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-09 08:45:51 
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Lee Ayrton <layrton@[E  2008-05-13 16:05:25 
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Lee Ayrton <layrton@[E  2008-05-14 19:21:35 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-14 17:23:42 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 10:37:58 
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"Bill Bonde { ''the   2008-05-15 05:16:25 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-12 17:17:33 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 02:38:57 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-09 09:25:20 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-13 07:56:23 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 14:16:07 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-12 08:17:16 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 19:32:36 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 22:03:19 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-13 08:00:06 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 14:10:43 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 16:50:25 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-11 20:24:11 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-11 15:03:10 
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"Charles Wm. Dimmick  2008-05-11 17:34:07 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-13 11:54:11 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-11 20:30:50 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 14:20:55 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-11 18:38:25 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-12 03:09:46 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-11 22:57:07 
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"Don K" <dk@  2008-05-11 23:01:00 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 15:05:04 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-12 20:53:10 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 02:39:28 
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Bob Ward <bobward@[EMA  2008-05-12 21:46:57 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 14:11:38 
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"Glenn Dowdy" &  2008-05-13 10:23:18 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 14:45:13 
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"Glenn Dowdy" &  2008-05-13 11:07:40 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 20:13:18 
historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
danny burstein <dannyb  2008-05-13 22:16:40 
Re: historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
Bob Ward <bobward@[EMA  2008-05-13 16:02:03 
Re: historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
"Bill Bonde { ''the   2008-05-13 18:49:42 
Re: historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
"Bill Bonde { ''the   2008-05-13 18:49:10 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-13 20:40:37 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 20:29:39 
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spam.sc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-14 08:58:38 
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"Bill Bonde { ''the   2008-05-14 08:21:57 
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spam.sc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-15 14:58:36 
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huey.callison@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-14 16:27:06 
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huey.callison@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-13 20:54:03 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-14 20:21:59 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-22 11:41:12 
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Bill Turlock <"Bi  2008-05-14 17:08:07 
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Guillermo el Gato <dev  2008-05-19 17:07:19 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-20 01:55:45 
Re: historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
Lee Ayrton <layrton@[E  2008-05-13 22:33:50 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-12 08:19:44 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 14:26:00 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-12 11:39:39 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 17:45:07 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-12 13:12:01 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 20:40:13 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-12 17:27:04 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 02:41:44 
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"Ryan Robbins"   2008-05-08 03:25:35 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-07 23:36:40 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-12 16:32:54 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 19:38:18 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-13 06:12:02 
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Shawn Wilson <ikonoqla  2008-05-07 16:24:00 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 00:18:39 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 11:10:29 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 11:07:42 
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Pushmi-Pullyu <PullmiP  2008-05-07 16:25:49 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-07 19:35:17 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 00:15:39 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-07 20:58:20 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 01:03:27 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-07 21:10:08 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 03:55:44 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 05:47:23 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-08 15:27:32 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 12:06:59 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-08 11:34:26 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 13:24:10 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 18:56:34 
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QueBarbara <que.barbar  2008-05-08 14:31:20 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 02:25:00 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 02:26:07 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-07 22:11:54 
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xhoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-08 15:49:06 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 16:50:52 
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xhoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-08 17:13:55 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 17:20:07 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:48:01 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-07 16:46:12 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 00:17:39 
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raven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 00:40:50 
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spam.sc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-08 09:07:11 
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Dana <dcarpend@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 17:18:45 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-08 03:04:19 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-07 17:45:46 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 00:56:30 
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paulydak <im@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-11 23:44:01 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-07 17:49:55 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 00:59:31 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-07 18:11:57 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 03:58:11 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-08 09:13:37 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-08 15:28:37 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:53:55 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 11:38:58 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 10:12:25 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-07 18:17:34 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:49:59 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-07 23:35:09 
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mike muth <mike.muth@[  2008-05-07 19:10:49 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:38:24 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 11:45:08 
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Binyamin Dissen <posti  2008-05-08 11:26:26 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 07:12:10 
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Mike <mike@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-08 08:38:26 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 19:01:15 
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spam.sc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-09 14:13:40 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 07:17:49 
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"artyw2@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-08 09:10:57 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-08 12:15:13 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-09 01:55:43 
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Guillermo el Gato <dev  2008-05-20 17:40:51 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-21 04:00:35 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 13:09:54 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 13:12:37 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 13:14:54 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 14:49:46 
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mike muth <mike.muth@[  2008-05-08 17:44:37 
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"artyw2@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-08 17:48:13 
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mike muth <mike.muth@[  2008-05-09 02:53:22 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-09 07:27:15 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-09 12:32:01 
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Bob Ward <bobward@[EMA  2008-05-09 13:11:08 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-10 16:14:21 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-11 03:32:02 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-11 13:13:38 
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Jerry Bauer <usenet@[E  2008-05-11 06:37:00 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-11 18:40:54 
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"artyw2@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-11 11:48:56 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-13 19:14:28 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-14 14:06:04 

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