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Re: Is she toast?

by raven@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raven-Poe) May 14, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Charles Bishop <ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> In article <4828B294.2DB0EFF2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique
> allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )"
<tributyltinpaint@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
<snmip>
> >the idea that he destroyed the world is ridiculous. I think that
> >like Truman, Bush Jr's tenure will be seen as a major ****ft in
> >direction in the world. And that that will be a good thing.

> I hope you're right, but I can't see it. What do you think the state of
> the world will be in 5 years? 10?, 15? 

Personally, a lot of that has to do with what happenes in the next few 
months.  Who wins the election?  What do they do?  Is Obama a true beliver

in the anti-war stuff or is he stringing them along?  Is Hillary 
sufficiently charismatic to keep a calculating foreign policy going?  
Would McCain drasticly up our involvement in the middle east promising us 
a Nixonian 'quick' fix?  

I mean really the next couple of decades are going to be defined by 
terrorism and our response to it: the new dialectic of our age, McWorld vs

Jihad (read the book with the same title, and while it flirted with 
interezsting concepts it was mostly disapointing).

> I might be around for all of these and can check. Longer, not so sure. I

> think it's likely that if his policies were good choices, we'll see 
> effects within this time range. 

No, we'll have a check soon as the last duty a president must fufill gets 
checked on: they need to not have their gains tossed away by thier 
successor (you can apply this to the elder Bush or Clinton depending on 
your view point).  After that, the policy choices will be judged by a 
whole host of things that happened afterwards.  

> Also if they were rotten, terrible, poorly chosen policies. I doubt they

> will be seen as neutral.

In a 'once the partisan issues are set aside we can take a sober look at 
things' sort way, I'm sure that you're right.



John
-- 
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Is she toast?
Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-07 22:57:55 
Re: Is she toast?
Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-07 23:18:01 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 00:11:05 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-07 23:37:54 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:43:30 
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raven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 02:58:34 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-08 03:02:44 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 10:19:09 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-08 15:40:44 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 11:09:10 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-08 16:21:49 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 12:06:02 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 19:13:03 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-08 22:59:06 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 20:44:52 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 14:45:41 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 22:37:25 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 15:49:19 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 22:58:57 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 16:25:16 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-09 01:02:04 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 20:47:23 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-09 00:21:04 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-09 00:56:41 
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raven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-10 01:13:14 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-10 14:08:15 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 22:01:54 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 21:11:48 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 19:36:06 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 02:37:13 
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raven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 22:21:35 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 17:46:41 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-08 21:24:30 
Re: Is she toast?
Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 16:36:25 
Re: historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
Shawn Wilson <ikonoqla  2008-05-15 10:40:01 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-09 08:45:51 
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Lee Ayrton <layrton@[E  2008-05-13 16:05:25 
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Lee Ayrton <layrton@[E  2008-05-14 19:21:35 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-14 17:23:42 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 10:37:58 
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"Bill Bonde { ''the   2008-05-15 05:16:25 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-12 17:17:33 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 02:38:57 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-09 09:25:20 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-13 07:56:23 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 14:16:07 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-12 08:17:16 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 19:32:36 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 22:03:19 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-13 08:00:06 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 14:10:43 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 16:50:25 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-11 20:24:11 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-11 15:03:10 
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"Charles Wm. Dimmick  2008-05-11 17:34:07 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-13 11:54:11 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-11 20:30:50 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 14:20:55 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-11 18:38:25 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-12 03:09:46 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-11 22:57:07 
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"Don K" <dk@  2008-05-11 23:01:00 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 15:05:04 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-12 20:53:10 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 02:39:28 
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Bob Ward <bobward@[EMA  2008-05-12 21:46:57 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 14:11:38 
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"Glenn Dowdy" &  2008-05-13 10:23:18 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 14:45:13 
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"Glenn Dowdy" &  2008-05-13 11:07:40 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 20:13:18 
historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
danny burstein <dannyb  2008-05-13 22:16:40 
Re: historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
Bob Ward <bobward@[EMA  2008-05-13 16:02:03 
Re: historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
"Bill Bonde { ''the   2008-05-13 18:49:42 
Re: historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
"Bill Bonde { ''the   2008-05-13 18:49:10 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-13 20:40:37 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 20:29:39 
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spam.sc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-14 08:58:38 
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"Bill Bonde { ''the   2008-05-14 08:21:57 
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spam.sc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-15 14:58:36 
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huey.callison@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-14 16:27:06 
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huey.callison@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-13 20:54:03 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-14 20:21:59 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-22 11:41:12 
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Bill Turlock <"Bi  2008-05-14 17:08:07 
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Guillermo el Gato <dev  2008-05-19 17:07:19 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-20 01:55:45 
Re: historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
Lee Ayrton <layrton@[E  2008-05-13 22:33:50 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-12 08:19:44 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 14:26:00 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-12 11:39:39 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 17:45:07 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-12 13:12:01 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 20:40:13 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-12 17:27:04 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 02:41:44 
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"Ryan Robbins"   2008-05-08 03:25:35 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-07 23:36:40 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-12 16:32:54 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 19:38:18 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-13 06:12:02 
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Shawn Wilson <ikonoqla  2008-05-07 16:24:00 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 00:18:39 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 11:10:29 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 11:07:42 
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Pushmi-Pullyu <PullmiP  2008-05-07 16:25:49 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-07 19:35:17 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 00:15:39 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-07 20:58:20 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 01:03:27 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-07 21:10:08 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 03:55:44 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 05:47:23 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-08 15:27:32 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 12:06:59 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-08 11:34:26 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 13:24:10 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 18:56:34 
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QueBarbara <que.barbar  2008-05-08 14:31:20 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 02:25:00 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 02:26:07 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-07 22:11:54 
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xhoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-08 15:49:06 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 16:50:52 
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xhoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-08 17:13:55 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 17:20:07 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:48:01 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-07 16:46:12 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 00:17:39 
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raven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 00:40:50 
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spam.sc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-08 09:07:11 
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Dana <dcarpend@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 17:18:45 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-08 03:04:19 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-07 17:45:46 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 00:56:30 
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paulydak <im@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-11 23:44:01 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-07 17:49:55 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 00:59:31 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-07 18:11:57 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 03:58:11 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-08 09:13:37 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-08 15:28:37 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:53:55 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 11:38:58 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 10:12:25 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-07 18:17:34 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:49:59 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-07 23:35:09 
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mike muth <mike.muth@[  2008-05-07 19:10:49 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:38:24 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 11:45:08 
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Binyamin Dissen <posti  2008-05-08 11:26:26 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 07:12:10 
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Mike <mike@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-08 08:38:26 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 19:01:15 
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spam.sc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-09 14:13:40 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 07:17:49 
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"artyw2@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-08 09:10:57 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-08 12:15:13 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-09 01:55:43 
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Guillermo el Gato <dev  2008-05-20 17:40:51 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-21 04:00:35 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 13:09:54 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 13:12:37 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 13:14:54 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 14:49:46 
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mike muth <mike.muth@[  2008-05-08 17:44:37 
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"artyw2@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-08 17:48:13 
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mike muth <mike.muth@[  2008-05-09 02:53:22 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-09 07:27:15 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-09 12:32:01 
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Bob Ward <bobward@[EMA  2008-05-09 13:11:08 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-10 16:14:21 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-11 03:32:02 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-11 13:13:38 
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Jerry Bauer <usenet@[E  2008-05-11 06:37:00 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-11 18:40:54 
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"artyw2@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-11 11:48:56 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-13 19:14:28 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-14 14:06:04 

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