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Re: Top 100 Novels... the Final Accounting

by bill van <billvan@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 11, 2008 at 06:48 PM

In article <q2ce24tuj7hk2nitu5h074lknc4slkpv3j@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 M C Hamster <davolson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> I was surprised about "The Golden Notebook".  We have an ancient copy
> sitting on our bookshelves, and my wife claims it was a kind of
> feminist rite of passage in the 60s to read it and love it and talk
> about it.  But I think there were three readers of it here, and all
> were men... yes, they were Pierre, Paul M, and bill van.

Lessing was -- is, actually -- a feminist, but also a one-time 
Moscow-oriented communist who broke with the party, and a science 
fiction writer, and an experimenter with the form of the novel. All of 
those made her interesting to my circle at the time. Feminism was a big 
part of it; that was roughly when the so-called New Left began to learn 
in bits and pieces that all was not well when the boys exchanged 
brilliant political thoughts in the living room while the girls served 
refreshments. But it's not the only thing going on with her and her 
books.

> I'm tempted to read it, since it's right here, and it's another one I
> can check off the list.  But now I'm seriously concerned.

She's hard to read. She may have a section of very clear narrative 
followed by a section where you can't tell who's talking about what from 
which point of view and the setting seems to be a thick bank of fog. 
Stuff falls into place if you stay with it, but it's sometimes a chore.

-- 
bill
remove my country for e-mail
 




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Top 100 Novels... the Final Accounting
M C Hamster <davolson@  2008-05-08 12:32:01 
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"Lesmond" <l  2008-05-08 18:45:10 
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M C Hamster <davolson@  2008-05-08 13:58:01 
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"Lesmond" <l  2008-05-09 12:45:24 
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groo <afcagroo@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 00:06:37 
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"Lesmond" <l  2008-05-17 16:17:03 
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"Cheetah" <C  2008-05-08 11:54:48 
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General Specific <brad  2008-05-08 12:21:41 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 14:35:10 
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TedTheCat <tedthecat85  2008-05-08 14:20:25 
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Shawn Wilson <ikonoqla  2008-05-08 14:52:17 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-08 17:29:12 
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Nick Spalding <spaldin  2008-05-09 08:00:57 
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Nick Spalding <spaldin  2008-05-09 08:07:32 
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Wally Sevits <rhabdomy  2008-05-08 15:41:05 
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Nick Spalding <spaldin  2008-05-09 08:04:37 
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bill van <billvan@[EMA  2008-05-09 08:30:07 
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Bill Turlock <"Bi  2008-05-09 08:22:49 
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bill van <billvan@[EMA  2008-05-09 22:04:39 
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"Lesmond" <l  2008-05-09 12:49:22 
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TedTheCat <tedthecat85  2008-05-09 09:19:18 
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"Lesmond" <l  2008-05-09 19:27:44 
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"Rick B." <d  2008-05-08 23:09:21 
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M C Hamster <davolson@  2008-05-08 20:12:06 
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Paul L. Madarasz <madp  2008-05-08 23:26:24 
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bill van <billvan@[EMA  2008-05-09 05:04:43 
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robertschreuder@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-08 23:28:54 
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jeffinputnam <jeffinpu  2008-05-09 06:48:29 
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M C Hamster <davolson@  2008-05-09 16:24:01 
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"Lesmond" <l  2008-05-09 22:11:44 
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Snidely <Snidely.too@[  2008-05-09 16:52:31 
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groo <afcagroo@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 00:26:57 
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Peter Ward <me@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 01:50:50 
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groo <afcagroo@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 01:36:51 
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Peter Ward <me@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 08:38:09 
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TedTheCat <tedthecat85  2008-05-18 14:48:42 
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M C Hamster <davolson@  2008-05-16 23:39:02 
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Paul L. Madarasz <madp  2008-05-17 07:26:38 
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M C Hamster <davolson@  2008-05-17 09:38:01 
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TedTheCat <tedthecat85  2008-05-18 13:07:47 
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Peter Ward <me@[EMAIL   2008-05-18 21:45:21 
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groo <afcagroo@[EMAIL   2008-05-19 00:53:46 
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TedTheCat <tedthecat85  2008-05-19 17:24:04 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-20 01:08:18 
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groo <afcagroo@[EMAIL   2008-05-20 03:43:06 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-20 17:51:05 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-20 19:12:07 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-21 03:20:36 
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Bob Ward <bobward@[EMA  2008-05-20 20:31:59 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-21 03:58:25 
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Bob Ward <bobward@[EMA  2008-05-20 21:39:10 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-21 04:52:08 
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M C Hamster <davolson@  2008-05-20 23:41:01 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-21 04:52:11 
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Bill Turlock <"Bi  2008-05-20 23:16:48 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-21 10:03:30 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-21 04:47:40 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-21 19:30:18 
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Bill Turlock <"Bi  2008-05-21 12:15:01 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-21 19:30:17 
Re: Top 100 Novels... the Final Accounting
Bill Turlock <"Bi  2008-05-21 12:35:13 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-21 19:51:39 
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Blinky the Shark <no.s  2008-05-20 22:10:03 
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schreuder.esther@[EMAIL P  2008-05-11 06:53:04 
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"Lesmond" <l  2008-05-11 14:50:06 
Re: Top 100 Novels... the Final Accounting
M C Hamster <davolson@  2008-05-11 12:53:01 
Re: Top 100 Novels... the Final Accounting
bill van <billvan@[EMA  2008-05-11 18:48:22 
Re: Top 100 Novels... the Final Accounting
M C Hamster <davolson@  2008-05-11 21:43:02 
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groo <afcagroo@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 00:14:04 
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robertschreuder@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-11 07:00:37 
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Veronique <veroniqueun  2008-05-11 10:59:31 
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robertschreuder@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-12 00:58:57 
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"Lesmond" <l  2008-05-12 12:36:50 
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Snidely <Snidely.too@[  2008-05-12 20:11:59 
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TedTheCat <tedthecat85  2008-05-17 14:10:02 
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groo <afcagroo@[EMAIL   2008-05-18 04:08:07 
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Peter Ward <me@[EMAIL   2008-05-18 10:39:56 
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TedTheCat <tedthecat85  2008-05-18 06:53:54 
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Bob Ward <bobward@[EMA  2008-05-18 11:01:17 
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groo <afcagroo@[EMAIL   2008-05-19 00:28:05 
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Peter Ward <me@[EMAIL   2008-05-19 12:26:57 
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groo <afcagroo@[EMAIL   2008-05-20 03:41:19 
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Peter Ward <me@[EMAIL   2008-05-20 16:57:15 

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