Re: Obama May Win Indiana

On Thu, 8 May 2008 15:40:57 -0500, "Anny Middon"
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>"Boron Elgar" <boron_elgar@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Thu, 8 May 2008 11:29:39 -0500, "Anny Middon"
>> <AnnyMiddon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>"Boron Elgar" <boron_elgar@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> Nah. These pols say all sorts of thing while they run. 99.9% never
>>>> used to get noticed at all. Now everyone has a phone with video
>>>> capability. Makes for great youtube, but really takes the fun out of
>>>> it all.
>>>>
>>>Gee, I think it makes it *more* fun.
>>>
>>>But then I've always enjoyed a good game of Gotcha!
>>>
>>>Anny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> The problem with gotcha is that everyone makes mistakes. It happens
>> under ordinary, everyday cir***stances and it happens under the
>> stressful campaign ones, too.
>>
>> Look at Howard Dean and how he was scuttled by a poor sound system and
>> a lot of replay and jokes.
>>
>> It isn't as if I think things should be hidden, or serious errors left
>> alone,  but the nature of the media now is to so overdo even the minor
>> faux pas, if it makes for ha ha or cute 10 secs or or similar, that it
>> can be painful to see the disintegration of someone over something he
>> or she  didn't deserve.
>>
>I think you're taking my point a bit out of context.  Your statement
above 
>was in reply to someone pointing out that Clinton had said Obama wasn't 
>qualified to be POTUS.  To which you said that bit about pols saying all 
>sorts of things while they run and 99.9% never used to get noticed at
all.

OK
>
>My point about playing Gotcha! is that I'd like to see candidates think
for 
>a second more often than they do before opening their yaps.  It's easy to

>say about anything you think will resonate with your current caudience
and 
>then say the exact opposite with another audience if there's a big chance
no 
>one will call you on it.

This isn't going to happen. There is too much exposure, too many
events, too much to memorize. There will always be ****ups due to
error and just plain old mistakes. Add that in to the usual ass
kissing and it gets too complicated to keep 100% straight. It'd be
nice, of course, if everything were, but it isn't going to be, so I
don't wish for it.

Politics is fluid.  This is necessary in some cases as the  situations
can change so rapidly, but political alliances and agreements are made
and re-made and re-negotiated all the time. What one pol agrees to on
Monday, may be different on Tuesday. There is much made of
flip-flopping, and keeping campaign promises, but I look for a leader
who very broadly and generally has characteristics and policies I
like.  I can't get all worked up about the flip-flops. Too much to
keep track of unless it happens to be about something I think is
extremely im****tant.  I look for trends and overall record rather than
anything on an incident by incident basis - again, unless it is a Big
Thing to me or mine.

>
>The Howard Dean incident was not a game of Gotcha!  Gotcha! is played
when 
>some pol exclaims indignantly, "I never said that!" and the news re****t 
>immediately follows with a tape showing him or her saying exactly that.
>
>As I said, I like Gotcha!  Although it can be and often is misused it's
also 
>a way of forcing pols to be a little more accountable for what they say.

I have never heard details of the game and just made an assumption
based on it's name.

Boron

Hey...whatever happened with the guess my hospital bill stuff?