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Re: Obama May Win Indiana

by Boron Elgar <boron_elgar@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 06:24 AM

On Thu, 08 May 2008 08:24:38 GMT, bill van <billvan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:

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>I would be perfectly happy with either the first female U.S. president, 
>or the first black U.S. president. I don't see how either of them has 
>dibs on the nomination without winning it fair and square. But the one 
>and only way the Repubs could win the White House again is if those two 
>tear the Democratic Party apart fighting for the nomination, which they 
>seem to be well on the way to doing. 

No one is tearing the party apart. This is a nomination process. The
idea of it being destructive is being created and echoed through the
MSM and blogosphere but has no basis in fact that I can see. It gives
a whole bunch of people the op****tunity to editorialize and snipe. 

There is nothing that either candidate can say or do about or to the
other that is not already in the planning stages to be used by McCain
and the right wing PACs. Any idea that HC or BO can come up with
something that they can't is ludicrous. 

People will have at minimum, 4 months of head to head competition and
their voting will be based on that, not the nominating process of the
Dems. No one is going to become damaged goods because of the
primaries. If they emerge seeming damaged, the weakness was there
already and was just hidden by Happy Dust.

If anything is gnawing at the party it is the wholly idiotic
conditions they put on the primaries. The Michigan and Florida fiascos
are proof of that. Had those states been allowed into play for the
candidates,  the nomination likely would have been sewed up by now.
And I don't mean they'd have been in Clinton' pocket, either, had all
candidates been allowed to go forward with campaigning.  Right now
they are on her side in some weird ways, though, and that makes it
even more foolish to pressure her to pull out.

My prediction is that if Obama can clinch before the convention,
suddenly, some means will appear to allow the MI & FL delegates to be
seated, as long as everything will ultimately sup****t Obama.

>Isn't there some way out of this?

Yes, let it play out as it should. Neither candidate has a
mathematical clinch right now. When either one does, the other will
bow out of necessity. The SDs will decide it and they can do that at
any point in time. There is no need to ask her to fall on her sword.
She worked hard to get here and if she can't make it all the way, then
fine, but her quitting now doesn't seem in character. She's a tough
cookie. If Obama cannot withstand the competition right up until the
very end, that is a flaw in him, as it would be in her, were the
popularity contest leaning in her direction now.

The primary season has shown her remarkable strengths and his
remarkable weaknesses. Too bad her policies are so rightist and his so
yuppie.

Boron
 




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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-06 22:38:27 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 00:23:52 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-07 06:27:49 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 08:02:32 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-07 09:58:47 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 08:42:23 
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M C Hamster <davolson@  2008-05-07 10:18:07 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-08 15:36:16 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-08 14:56:46 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 17:36:54 
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nebusj-@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-07 12:14:09 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-07 19:16:44 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 13:01:05 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-08 15:37:43 
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Jim Prescott <jgp@[EMA  2008-05-08 13:09:00 
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M C Hamster <davolson@  2008-05-08 15:32:02 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-08 15:32:03 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-07 16:36:46 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-07 20:26:35 
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bill van <billvan@[EMA  2008-05-08 08:24:38 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 06:24:12 
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Neal Eckhardt <neckhar  2008-05-08 10:05:37 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 15:24:02 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 11:59:04 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-08 15:47:42 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 12:04:51 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 11:52:17 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 13:22:14 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 17:36:57 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 14:38:25 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 14:07:35 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 11:59:37 
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bill van <billvan@[EMA  2008-05-08 17:22:48 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 17:47:44 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-09 13:56:45 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-09 17:22:04 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-08 15:45:24 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 16:00:58 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 12:02:56 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 16:22:11 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 13:13:23 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 17:36:56 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 14:40:04 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 15:44:56 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-08 11:29:39 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 13:18:42 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-08 15:40:57 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 17:29:59 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-08 17:17:53 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-09 00:15:49 
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Neal Eckhardt <neckhar  2008-05-09 09:42:07 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-09 10:23:28 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-08 22:09:23 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-08 15:42:16 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-07 08:12:59 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-08 15:50:54 
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Dana <dcarpend@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 17:48:27 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-08 11:19:17 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-08 22:20:29 
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"Reunite Gondwanalan  2008-05-08 21:57:53 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-09 14:24:49 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-09 11:06:25 
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Rick B. <deepstblu@[EM  2008-05-09 11:11:43 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-10 20:23:42 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-09 08:50:58 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-09 09:19:36 
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bill van <billvan@[EMA  2008-05-09 21:40:04 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-09 23:45:38 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-12 15:59:02 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-14 06:58:44 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-09 07:37:06 
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Bob Ward <bobward@[EMA  2008-05-09 13:19:48 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-09 07:41:29 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-10 13:57:32 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-09 10:07:11 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-09 23:50:31 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-12 15:49:50 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-13 01:45:02 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-13 14:51:44 
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