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Re: Is she toast?

by Dover Beach <moon.blanched@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 12:11 AM

Opus the Penguin <opusthepenguin+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
news:Xns9A97B9773BF5Eopusthepenguinnettax@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

> Dover Beach (moon.blanched@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) wrote:
> 
>> Clinton, obviously.  So now the questions are: 
>> 
>> Will it hurt her or benefit her to keep fighting if she's now
>> angling for the 2012 election?
>> 
> 
> It will hurt her. The only way she's involved in the 2012 election
> is if Obama loses. Otherwise he'll be the Republican nominee in
> 2012. If Obama loses, people will blame Hillary.

I think she'd have a better shot at 2012 if she'd back out now.  I hate
to see her do it, and I can understand if she wants to keep fighting,
but she'd preserve more goodwill if she'd wait four more years. 

Last night I was reading the news, and some AP story had the headline
"Clinton fights to block Obama's historic march."  Now there's some
objective re****ting.  Obama's trying to block Clinton's historic march,
too, but that's never the headline. 
 
> 
> 
> Good question. There's Jeremiah Wright, but McCain is similarly 
> vulnerable. Will he really want to go down that road and have us 
> decide who is more closely tied to creepy religious people? There's 
> Obama's shady real estate deal, or whatever that was. But McCain is a 
> big buddy of Charles Keating and I think he's got other skeletons.

I don't think he is equally vulnerable.  Not that he doesn't associate
with creeps; he does.  I just don't think it will stick to him the same
way.  "Angry black man" is more contagious than "dumbass racist white
preacher".  Hey! I'm just the messenger.  I'm not endorsing this fact. 




-- 
Dover
 




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Is she toast?
Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-07 22:57:55 
Re: Is she toast?
Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-07 23:18:01 
Re: Is she toast?
Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 00:11:05 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-07 23:37:54 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:43:30 
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raven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 02:58:34 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-08 03:02:44 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 10:19:09 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-08 15:40:44 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 11:09:10 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-08 16:21:49 
Re: Is she toast?
Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 12:06:02 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 19:13:03 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-08 22:59:06 
Re: Is she toast?
Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 20:44:52 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 14:45:41 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 22:37:25 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 15:49:19 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 22:58:57 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 16:25:16 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-09 01:02:04 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 20:47:23 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-09 00:21:04 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-09 00:56:41 
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raven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-10 01:13:14 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-10 14:08:15 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 22:01:54 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 21:11:48 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 19:36:06 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 02:37:13 
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raven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 22:21:35 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 17:46:41 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-08 21:24:30 
Re: Is she toast?
Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 16:36:25 
Re: historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
Shawn Wilson <ikonoqla  2008-05-15 10:40:01 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-09 08:45:51 
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Lee Ayrton <layrton@[E  2008-05-13 16:05:25 
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Lee Ayrton <layrton@[E  2008-05-14 19:21:35 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-14 17:23:42 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 10:37:58 
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"Bill Bonde { ''the   2008-05-15 05:16:25 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-12 17:17:33 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 02:38:57 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-09 09:25:20 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-13 07:56:23 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 14:16:07 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-12 08:17:16 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 19:32:36 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 22:03:19 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-13 08:00:06 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 14:10:43 
Re: Is she toast?
Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 16:50:25 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-11 20:24:11 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-11 15:03:10 
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"Charles Wm. Dimmick  2008-05-11 17:34:07 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-13 11:54:11 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-11 20:30:50 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 14:20:55 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-11 18:38:25 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-12 03:09:46 
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"D.F. Manno" &l  2008-05-11 22:57:07 
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"Don K" <dk@  2008-05-11 23:01:00 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 15:05:04 
Re: Is she toast?
Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-12 20:53:10 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 02:39:28 
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Bob Ward <bobward@[EMA  2008-05-12 21:46:57 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 14:11:38 
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"Glenn Dowdy" &  2008-05-13 10:23:18 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 14:45:13 
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"Glenn Dowdy" &  2008-05-13 11:07:40 
Re: Is she toast?
"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 20:13:18 
historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
danny burstein <dannyb  2008-05-13 22:16:40 
Re: historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
Bob Ward <bobward@[EMA  2008-05-13 16:02:03 
Re: historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
"Bill Bonde { ''the   2008-05-13 18:49:42 
Re: historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
"Bill Bonde { ''the   2008-05-13 18:49:10 
Re: Is she toast?
Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-13 20:40:37 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 20:29:39 
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spam.sc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-14 08:58:38 
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"Bill Bonde { ''the   2008-05-14 08:21:57 
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spam.sc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-15 14:58:36 
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huey.callison@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-14 16:27:06 
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huey.callison@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-13 20:54:03 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-14 20:21:59 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-22 11:41:12 
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Bill Turlock <"Bi  2008-05-14 17:08:07 
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Guillermo el Gato <dev  2008-05-19 17:07:19 
Re: Is she toast?
Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-20 01:55:45 
Re: historical lookbacks are fun, was: Is she toast?
Lee Ayrton <layrton@[E  2008-05-13 22:33:50 
Re: Is she toast?
"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-12 08:19:44 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 14:26:00 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-12 11:39:39 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 17:45:07 
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"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-12 13:12:01 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-12 20:40:13 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-12 17:27:04 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-13 02:41:44 
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"Ryan Robbins"   2008-05-08 03:25:35 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-07 23:36:40 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-12 16:32:54 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 19:38:18 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-13 06:12:02 
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Shawn Wilson <ikonoqla  2008-05-07 16:24:00 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 00:18:39 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 11:10:29 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 11:07:42 
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Pushmi-Pullyu <PullmiP  2008-05-07 16:25:49 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-07 19:35:17 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 00:15:39 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-07 20:58:20 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 01:03:27 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-07 21:10:08 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 03:55:44 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 05:47:23 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-08 15:27:32 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 12:06:59 
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"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-08 11:34:26 
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Boron Elgar <boron_elg  2008-05-08 13:24:10 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 18:56:34 
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QueBarbara <que.barbar  2008-05-08 14:31:20 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-08 02:25:00 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 02:26:07 
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ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-07 22:11:54 
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xhoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-08 15:49:06 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 16:50:52 
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xhoster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-08 17:13:55 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 17:20:07 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:48:01 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-07 16:46:12 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 00:17:39 
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raven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 00:40:50 
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spam.sc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-08 09:07:11 
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Dana <dcarpend@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 17:18:45 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-08 03:04:19 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-07 17:45:46 
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Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-08 00:56:30 
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paulydak <im@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-11 23:44:01 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-07 17:49:55 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 00:59:31 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-07 18:11:57 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 03:58:11 
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Peter Boulding <pjb@[E  2008-05-08 09:13:37 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-08 15:28:37 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:53:55 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 11:38:58 
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Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 10:12:25 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-07 18:17:34 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:49:59 
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"Bill Bonde ( 'the o  2008-05-07 23:35:09 
Re: Is she toast?
mike muth <mike.muth@[  2008-05-07 19:10:49 
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Greg Goss <gossg@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:38:24 
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slidge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 11:45:08 
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Binyamin Dissen <posti  2008-05-08 11:26:26 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 07:12:10 
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Mike <mike@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-08 08:38:26 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 19:01:15 
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spam.sc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-09 14:13:40 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 07:17:49 
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"artyw2@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-08 09:10:57 
Re: Is she toast?
"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-08 12:15:13 
Re: Is she toast?
Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-09 01:55:43 
Re: Is she toast?
Guillermo el Gato <dev  2008-05-20 17:40:51 
Re: Is she toast?
Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-21 04:00:35 
Re: Is she toast?
Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 13:09:54 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 13:12:37 
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Curse Of Millhaven <mi  2008-05-08 13:14:54 
Re: Is she toast?
Rod Stiffington <inval  2008-05-08 14:49:46 
Re: Is she toast?
mike muth <mike.muth@[  2008-05-08 17:44:37 
Re: Is she toast?
"artyw2@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-08 17:48:13 
Re: Is she toast?
mike muth <mike.muth@[  2008-05-09 02:53:22 
Re: Is she toast?
"Richard R. Hershber  2008-05-09 07:27:15 
Re: Is she toast?
"Anny Middon" &  2008-05-09 12:32:01 
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Bob Ward <bobward@[EMA  2008-05-09 13:11:08 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-10 16:14:21 
Re: Is she toast?
Dover Beach <moon.blan  2008-05-11 03:32:02 
Re: Is she toast?
Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-11 13:13:38 
Re: Is she toast?
Jerry Bauer <usenet@[E  2008-05-11 06:37:00 
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Opus the Penguin <opus  2008-05-11 18:40:54 
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"artyw2@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-11 11:48:56 
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Mr C <camsoccer@[EMAIL  2008-05-13 19:14:28 
Re: Is she toast?
Hank Gillette <hankgil  2008-05-14 14:06:04 

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