Re: Looks like Republicans don't want Veterans to vote after all

On May 6, 10:06 pm, "D.F. Manno" <dfma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> In article
> <4093e183-494a-4a0b-9f56-0560945b0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>  The Weasel <theoneandonlysuperwea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > On May 6, 7:37 pm, "D.F. Manno" <dfma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > >  The Weasel <theoneandonlysuperwea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > > Indiana wanted to thwart the same problems that were found in the
20=
04
> > > > Wa****ngton gubernatorial election. Who fought AGAINST the law??
The
> > > > Democrats. Why? Apparently they do not sup****t free and fair
> > > > elections.
>
> As far as not sup****ting "free and fair" elections I refer you to Bush
> v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000).

This was one of the best decisions to sup****t free and fair elections.
A partisan group of Democrat judges in Florida violated Florida Code
in an attempt to overturn the 12th Amendment and the Electoral Count
Act of 1887. The court did exactly what it should have, and gave the
process back to the Representatives of the People.

> > > > "State=B9s Ex. 3, pp. 4-5, 19 (court findings that in the State of
> > > > Wa****ngton=B9s 2004 gubernatorial elections more than 1,600
fraudule=
ntly
> > > > cast ballots, including 19 ballots cast by dead voters, six double
> > > > votes, and 77 votes unaccounted for on the registration rolls)"
>
> > > >http://www.insd.uscourts.gov/opinions/ao6340o1.pdf
>
> > > And this is relevant to Indiana how, exactly? In the recently
decided
> > > SCOTUS case on the Indiana voter-ID law, the defendants presented
_no_=

> > > evidence that people were impersonating registered voters, which is
th=
e
> > > _only_ form of vote fraud that requiring ID would catch.
>
> > And your point? The Democrats in the case admitted such fraud does go
> > on in the county
>
> Your cite does not sup****t that claim.

Yes it does, but apparently you didn't read the opinion from the link
that I gave. Here is the link again.

http://www.insd.uscourts.gov/opinions/ao6340o1.pdf

> > yet the State of Indiana does not have the right to
> > protect itself from such possible fraud?
>
> Generally I like to see some evidence that there actually _is_ a problem
> before states start limiting the right to vote.

Then take the time to educate yourself.

http://www.insd.uscourts.gov/opinions/ao6340o1.pdf

> > I refer you to the 24th Amendment, which SCOTUS merrily ignored.
>
> > A free id is not a poll tax.
>
> Who said it's free? There are costs involved in obtaining the do***ents
> necessary to get the ID, not to mention the costs of traveling to the
> government office to get one's picture taken (which is not trivial in
> rural areas.

If you accept this argument, then having to travel to register to vote
and to actually cast a ballot in now a poll tax.

> --
> D.F. Manno | dfma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "As societies grow decadent, the language grows decadent, too. Words
> are used to disguise, not to illuminate, action: you liberate a city by
> destroying it. Words are to confuse, so that at election time people
> will solemnly vote against their own interests." (Gore Vidal)