Re: ethanol

huey.callison@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> 
> Charles Bishop <ctbishop@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > "Bill Bonde  <tributyltinpaint@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >Charles Bishop wrote:
> > >> "Bill Bonde  <tributyltinpaint@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >> >Now if you want to argue that it isn't worth it to bother with
> > >> >used oil, make that argument. There are companies that are doing
> > >> >this or will be trying to do this on a commercial scale, at least
> > >> >to make a profit. The limit is obviously how much oil is
> > >> >available. Since I don't have those numbers memorized, I'd have to
> > >> >look them up.
> > >> What are the numbers?
> > >Usually '0' through '9' but sometimes also 'A' through 'F'. It tends
> > >to depend on whether all your base are belong to us.
> > I'm sorry to have been unlcear. You mentioned there were numbers that
> > let us know how much oil was available and how this related to profit.
> > You said you didn't have the numbers but would cheerfully get them if
> > someone asked.
> > So, I was asking. What are the numbers involved?
> 
> Why ask him? He's not going to cheerfully get anything no matter who
> asks.
> 
I didn't claim to be cheerfully looking for the cite.


> According to http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policy/ohim/hs05/htm/mv1.htm
> there's around 250 million vehicles in the US. If you figure each one is
> going to need four oil changes a year, that's 32 million barrels of
> waste oil, which is presumably much higher quality than garden-variety
> light sweet crude.
> 
> ...but that's about a day and a half of the US oil consumption. And
> you've got the same overhead you have with any other crude oil - you
> have to ****p it and refine it 
>
Actually, it's the additives in the oil that break down, and there
are toxins because it has been heated. But it's not crude oil
again.


> - plus the fact that you have to collect
> it, one gallon at a time, from all over the damn place. It's a whole lot
> easier to take a couple million barrels out of one spot in the ground
> than it is to collect it a gallon at a time from 3 million different
> people every day. So you're probably not making a huge pile of money on
> waste oil unless 1) you're heating with it, or 2) you take advantage of
> economies of scale, like using the same Jiffy Lube delivery trucks that
> drop off the new oil at the franchises to pick up the waste oil.
> 
We were actually talking about waste fry oil, not waste motor oil,
but plainly collecting the waste oil is occurring. So why not the
waste fry oil?




-- 
"Question, two men starving to death decide to eat their hair like
spaghetti. Is that funny?"
"Hmmm, well, it depends on if by funny you want to make people
laugh."
-+Eddie Izzard and Joanna Lumley, "The Cat's Meow"