Re: ethanol

In article <4803FEEF.DF415CAA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique
allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )" <tributyltinpaint@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:

>Charles Bishop wrote:
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>> In article <4803E541.55764973@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique
>> allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )"
<tributyltinpaint@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> wrote:
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>> >Charles Bishop wrote:
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>> >> In article <4803C4A2.D15D76C5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, "Bill Bonde ( 'the
oblique
>> >> allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )"
<tributyltinpaint@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Charles Bishop wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In article <48039B4D.12F41AC3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, "Bill Bonde ( 'the
oblique
>> >> >> allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )"
<tributyltinpaint@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> >> wrote:
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>> >> >> >Veronique wrote:
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>> >> >> >> On Apr 9, 10:36 pm, xhos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>> >> >> >> > So where is all this ethanol going which we are starving the
world to
>> >> >> >> > produce?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Around here, I'm not seeing E85 pumps sprouting like weeds,
and I
>> >> think all
>> >> >> >> > the MTBE here had already been replaced with ethanol before
the
>> current
>> >> >> >> > craze started.  What's going on in the rest of the country?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> We have a biodiesel station right around the corner, and I
know a guy
>> >> >> >> who's starting up a biodiesel company.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >There needs to a systematic and low overhead means of collecting
>> >> >> >used cooking oil from individuals. I would suggest collection
>> >> >> >points at grocery stores or even restaurants.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why? How much would they pay me for it? Enough to make it
worthwhile to
>> >> >> collect the small amounts I use, then would have to store until
someone
>> >> >> came along to collect it?
>> >> >>
>> >> >They wouldn't pay you anything. I'm saying that you collect it,
>> >> >which you probably should do anyway since dumping it down the drain
>> >> >is probably not good and the only other place is in the garbage.
>> >> >You would then bring it to some place you were going anyway when
>> >> >you felt like it, like how you would recycle newspapers or
>> >> >whatever.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not going to do that, and how are you going to convince other
people
>> >> to do that.
>> >>
>> >You aren't going to do that? Why bloody not?
>> 
>> Don't swear at me young man. I told you why. It's too much trouble for
the
>> small amount of oil I use.
>>
>If we include grease drained from cooked meats, is it really that
>little?

Yes
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>> It wouldn't be worth it for me to do so. Also,
>> you haven't given details. How often is the pickup? Do I have to supply
my
>> own containers? Is there storage outside or do I have to keep it
inside?
>> usw.
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>I was going to have you drop it off, remember?  When I buy cooking
>oil, it comes with its own container.

Then we're done. I'm for sure not going to drop it off. I don't have to
drop off my recycling, they come get it so it would be a separate trip.
What percentage of the population have to participate and what total
volume would make it worthwhile?


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>You don't have enough of it.

I don't, but there a many other people like me who don't have enough. You
could make it up in volume.
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>> >> Would you set up a business collecting oil from people's homes? If
not,
>> >> why not?
>> >>
>> >It wouldn't make economic sense, just like it doesn't make any
>> >sense to collect a lot of things in different containers each week.
>> 
>> If it doesn't make economic sense for you to do it, why do you want me
to
>> do it? 
>>
>It doesn't make economic sense for me to go to your house and pick
>it up. It can make economic sense for you to bring it somewhere you
>were already going.

But I'm not going there.
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>> I don't mind contributing to society, volunteering and all that,
>> this isn't one of the things I want to do.
>> 
>Even if you used a deep fryer?

Why the hypothetical?

-- 
charles