Re: NYT Op-Ed by Paul Krugman

Dover Beach (moon.blanched@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Opus the Penguin <opusthepenguin+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Boron Elgar (boron_elgar@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) wrote:
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>>> The NY Times printed this today.
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/opinion/11krugman.html?hp
>>> 
>> 
>> The short answer to some of the questions posed in the article is
>> this. Hillary Clinton is herself Nixonian. That is practically a
>> perfect adjective for her. Stevenson spoke of "a land of slander
>> and scare; the land of sly innuendo, the poison pen, the
>> anonymous phone call and hustling, pu****ng, shoving; the land of
>> smash and grab and anything to win. This is Nixonland." It's also
>> Hillaryville. 
>> 
>> The current president--whom I believe to be the worst ever by a 
>> comfortable margin--has garnered illicit powers and destroyed  
>> accountability for his office. The next president needs to be
>> someone who will return those powers to the people and restore
>> accountability. The next president needs to be someone who will
>> unsuspend habeas corpus in Guantanomo and who will not
>> countenance torture in the name of the US.
>> 
>> Hillary Clinton is the opposite of that. She will consolidate the
>> powers Bush grabbed and use them for her own ends. She will
>> exploit the lack of accountability all while pointing a finger at
>> the previous president and claiming *he's* the one who really
>> wasn't accountable (as though that somehow makes her accountable
>> by default). She will continue to suspend habeas corpus. She will
>> turn a blind eye to torture.
>> 
>> Hence, I take vigorous exception to this sentence in the article:
>> "Sup****ters of each candidate should have no trouble rallying
>> behind the other if he or she gets the nod."
>> 
>> We've had people in this group point out that we should never
>> assume things can't get no worse. Things could get worse under
>> Hillary Clinton.
>> 
> 
> Opus, you know, I know what it's like to hate a president at a
> visceral level.  Ask me about Reagan sometime.  There were lots of
> people who thought his policies were bad but that he was a swell
> guy.  I loathed him and detested him and thought that he
> represented everything that was smug and hypocritical and
> self-satisfied and blind and repulsive about America.  And that
> went double for Nancy.  But you're not recognizing your personal
> animus for what it is.  You don't know that Hillary would do all
> those things you list.  You don't have any true evidence.  
> 

I don't think that's so. I don't want to get back into it. But there 
was Whitewater, the disappearing Rose Law Firm files, the people who 
went to jail to protect the Clintons, keeping the police out of Vince 
Foster's office while they did clean up, etc. etc. You may discount 
that evidence, but don't tell me I don't even have it. You are wrong.

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