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> David Johnston wrote:
> > On 24 Mar 2005 09:18:50 -0800, lensman1955@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >Dreamer wrote:
> > >> <lensman1955@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > >> news:1111602077.242260.327270@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>
> > >> > Actually, they weren't that bad. Sort of "hard core" Edgar Rice
> > >> > Burroughs-Mars stuff. What got to me was the hypocricy. (sp)
> > >>
> > >> There isn't any hypocracy if you also realize that the books are
> > >perfectly
> > >> consistent in the general case of the specific observation you
> make
> > >below:
> > >> the assertion that men and women are fundamentally different.
> Whether
> > >you
> > >> believe it or not is another question, but it's not fair to call a
> > >book
> > >> hypocritical in one breath and make fun of it for endlessly
> repeating
> > >the
> > >> same message with the next.
> > >
> > >I never said he was inconsistent. I think the basic message (men
> will
> > >work together to free themselves, women will work against each
> other.
> > >Women will be happiest when they learn to be subservient to man) is
> > >hypocritical.
> >
> > It isn't. Given the premise (that the "natural order" is men on top,
> > and women on their knees), there's no hypocrisy involved in saying
> > that slavery is bad for men and good for women. It might be
> > considered pernicious, but not hypocritical.
>
> But there is the concept of "men will work together to help each other,
> women will betray potential trust and sell each other into slavery."
Actually there are trustworthy women and dastardly men in the Gor books:
you
are correct in that they ascribe different psychological traits to men and
women but incorrect as to what they are.
> But, y'know what? Maybe you're right and I'm using the wrong term. But
> it's still a nasty-ass series of propaganda pieces for a nasty
> mysogonist (sp) mind. I'd love to see a fanfic of Xena wandering around
> Gor kicking their collective asses.
There are any number of such fanfics but a Google away. I think my
favorite
so far has been one in which Gandalf, Rayden, and some others (including I
think the Guardians of Oa) were part of some sort of council of
trans-dimensional beings who tried to put the kibosh on the Marty Sam (A
"Marty Sam" is a male "Mary Sue.") uber-wizard going to Gor to help some
Terrans who'd been kidnapped and taken there: he mannishly defies them and
equips the ragged band with weapons and powers from various videogames.
Hilarity ensues.
Probably the best suggestion I've seen for a crossover which would teach
Tarl Cabot some humility is to sic Gwen Ingolfsson on him. Absent massive
Authorial Intervention, she'd clean his clock. Xena wouldn't be a
particularly bothersome problem.
M
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