"Kent Wills" <compuelf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:51:53 GMT, Deadrat <a@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>Kent Wills <compuelf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
>>news:2ii5741nkmuh6uahf1eqeqt91rqr1o5onq@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:18:39 GMT, Deadrat <a@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>> Jonez, had you bothered to actually understand the basics of
>>>>> Christian theology, you would have known that Jesus Christ taught
>>>>> love and forgiveness and compassion and that the judgement for sins
>>>>> comes only by G-d/Jesus Christ on his throne on your day of
>>>>> judgment. No human can percieve another's soul, much less inner
>>>>> thoughts,
>>>>
>>>>And yet you do it all the time wrt Jonez. Go figure.
>>>
>>> Using what he presents. If he's presented lies regarding his
>>> feelings, that's his responsibility.
>>
>>What has he presented?
>
> A true hate for the God of the Bible while holding no ill feelings
> for the deities of any other religion.
So you acknowlege that there ARE other gods, eh heretic?
>>You think "conversations" with Jonez are to be
>>judge like ordinary exchanges? He's pretty cagey about saying what he
>>thinks; he let's you jump to conclusions.
>>
>
> If my conclusions were/are in error, he's had ample time to
> correct me.
It's more entertaining to let you wallow in your own copious excrement.
>
>>>>> and
>>>>> therefore cannot fairly judge another in regards to heaven or hell.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also the following verse of "judge not" says " for as you judge ,
>>>>> you
>>>>> will be judged." To put it another way, you condemn others, you
>>>>> yourself will be condemned.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you claiming to have the authority to judge, punish and
>>>>> condmnm
>>>>> me, Jonesie? (( Derisive laugh))
>>>>
>>>>Well, he clearly has the "authority" to judge you according to his own
>>>>lights.
>>>
>>> Everyone does. However, Christians are warned that we'll be held
>>> to those same standards.
>>
>>Doesn't seem to affect a lot of you for the better. Just look at the
>>exchanges between Jonez and the good Christians on this newsgroup.
>
> As far as I know, I'm the only Christian with whom he has any
> exchange in misc.legal.
ROTFLMAO !
There's another Gallactic Class whopper from Kent the burglar Wills,
almost as hilariously preposterous as Lyin' Larry's claim that he knows
hundreds of lawyers and not one of them knows their Attorney Registration
#.
> There may be others who have chosen not to
> make it known they are Christian.
Does that make them any less christian, eh Kent?
> I'm more than willing to be held to the same standards I hold to
> Jonezie.
Yet another Iowa sized lie.
> If I express hate for a deity while stating I believe said deity
> to be fictional, I would expect someone to point it out. In fact, I
> would expect to be mocked for the conflicting position.
So your pea-sized pollack brain can't comprehend holding fictional
characters -- and the values they eschew -- in disdain and contempt, eh
numbnuts?
> Of course, since I believe all deities other than Jehovah are
> fictional,
Based on what, exactly?
> there's no rational reason for me to develop, let alone
> express, any feeling for them.
Then how did you come to disbelieve them, eh moron?
>
>>
>>>>>> >>Everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to
>>>>>> >>be put to
>>>>>> >>death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. 2
>>>>>> >>Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your
>>>>>> >> beloved wife, or
>>>>>> >>you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods,
>>>>>> >>whom you and
>>>>>> >>your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at
>>>>>> >>hand or far
>>>>>> >>away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him
>>>>>> >>or listen
>>>>>> >>to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or ****eld him, but
>>>>>> >>kill him.
>>>>>> >>Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the
>>>>>> >>people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death,
>>>>>> >>because he sought
>>>>>> >>to
>>>>>> >>lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of
>>>>>> >>the lan of
>>>>>> >>Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this,
>>>>>> >>shall fear
>>>>>> >>and never do such evil as this in your midst. Deuteronomy
>>>>>> >>13:7-12 NAB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Do to others as you would have them do to you. Luke 6:31
>>>>>> > (NIV)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you reject the rest of God's Word in the Bible, save this
>>>>>> singular assertion
>>>>>> from Luke, eh blasphemer?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonez, had you actually studied Christian teachings you would know
>>>>> that there is a big difference between OT and NT law. You would also
>>>>> have understood that the application of biblical commands is subject
>>>>> to human choice. Since we now do not own slaves, obviously the OT
>>>>> commands about slavery no longer apply. And while I've heard some
>>>>> Christians make pretzel-logic excuses for certain things in the Old
>>>>> Testament, I've also heard Christians explain that the OT laws were
>>>>> ine ffect done away with on the cross where Jesus Christ was
>>>>> crucified. And the new law, as explained by Jesus, was all about
>>>>> love, not hate. Did you by any chance misunderstand the parable of
>>>>> the Good Samaritan?
>>>>
>>>>How about the parable of the church's 1965 year war against Jews for
>>>>the killing of your god?
>>>
>>> Since Moe's not a Christian, your question doesn't make much
>>> sense.
>>
>>The argument doesn't really rely on what Moe is.
>
> You asked Moe, "How about the parable of the church's 1965 year
> war against Jews for the killing of your god?"
> Unless you are claiming knowledge about a deity within Wicca
> being killed by the Jews, you most probably mean Jesus. She's made it
> very clear that she's not a Christian.
> BTW, Jesus was supposed to be killed.
How convenient.
> Trying to blame the Jews, or the Romans, or anyone else, is kind of
silly
> for anyone.
Almost as silly as your pig-ignorant superstitious nonsense.
>
>>In the first place,
>>anyone can play Samantha in cyberspace.
>
> It's *possible* that Moe's been lying about her religion for the
> past few years. It's also possible I had a rib eye steak for supper.
> Since I'm a vegetarian, it's not very likely, just like Moe having
> been lying all this time isn't very likely.
Why do you lie?
>
>>Secondly, see above where it
>>sqays "had you actually studied Christian teachings"? It's pointless to
>>throw "Christian teachings" at Jonez.
>
> Which has nothing to do with your question to Moe about the Jews
> killing her god.
> Oh, I think, though Moe would be a more authoritative source,
> Wicca has more than one deity.
>
>>
>>>>> And calling someone a blasphemer is ironic considering your rabid
>>>>> hatred for Jehovah.
>>>>
>>>>He doesn't hate Jehovah.
>>>
>>> He certainly does, or he really wants people to think he does.
>>> If he doesn't, but only wants people to think he does, then he has
>>> some issues that really need to be addressed.
>>
>>Jonez isn't much of an explainer. But it seems to me that his tirades
>>makes more sense directed at people.
>
> Yet he must include the God of the Bible in his tirades. Ever
> seen an angry post from him directed at Brahma or Vishnu?
Are you insane? Those deities are seriously bad dudes, it'd be
suicide to insult them ...
> If, as appears to be the case, he believes they are fictional, he
> has no reason to love or hate them. This is the reason he doesn't
> care about them.
More lies from Kent the blasphemer Wills.
>
>>
>>>>He might hate you, but then again "[n]o
>>>>human can percieve another's soul, much less inner thoughts," eh?
>>>
>>> Unless they make it clear how they feel/think.
>>
>>Ah! But Jonez' specialty is not making it clear.
>
> He is, actually. Maybe not as clear as you would like, but he's
> being pretty clear.
>
>>It's clear what *you*
>>think, though.
>
> I think he has some serious anger issues related to the God of the
> Bible. It's anyone's guess as to what these issues are.
> I have some guesses, but they are only guesses.
"Let's pretend breathing is outlawed and everyone the world
over ceases inhaling and exhaling. There will be NO change in
CO2 levels since we exhale carbon monoxide,
not carbon dioxide, stupid."
- Kent Wills si-untist/teacher from Iowa
>
>>Or are you faking the outrage? Can another person ever
>>really tell?
>
> Where's the outrage? Jonezie is free to have and express his hate
> for a deity that he claims he believes is fake while offering proof
> that he believes is real.
With levels of "proof" like that, it's no wonder an imbecile like you
believes a preposterous perverse iron-age superstition.
> Aside from showing his inability to be
> honest about his beliefs, it's no a big deal. Really.
>
>>
>>>>Really, trying to reason with Jonez about your religion just makes you
>>>>look silly.
>>>
>>> Trying to reason with Jonezie is starting to loose it's interest
>>> with me.
>>
>>I predict that's not the case. Just a guess.
>
> Time will tell.
Another Clue Meter broken.
>
>>
>>> It's clear he isn't able to comprehend anything outside of
>>> his small world view.
>>
>>Might that just be projection? Just another guess.
>>
>
> Anything is possible. However, not everything is probable.
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