Re: Jonez the self-righteous

forevernitefan <fvrnite@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Jul 6, 2:41 pm, "Reality_Check©" <Real...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Kent Wills" <compu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:11:45 -0600, "Reality_Check©"
>> > <Real...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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>> > wrote:
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>> > [...]
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>> >>> >> =========
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>> >>> >> "THOU SHALT NOT SUFFER A WITCH TO LIVE."
>> >>> >> -- Exodus 22:18
>>
>> >>> >> Now go **** yourself you lying ****.
>>
>> >>> > SO IOW you DID mean you wanted to kill that " witch", huh? Will
>> >>> > you kindly tell your lackey Tjab that? He seems a bit too dumb
>> >>> > to comprehend your words.
>>
>> >>> Do you not believe in the immutable inerrant WORD OF GOD as
>> >>> revealed in the Holy Bible?
>>
>> >> Being a NON- Christian, I don't consider the Bible to be an
>> >>authoritative source. Had you the comprehension skills of a
>> >>four-year old , you would have known I do not follow the Bible, Nor
>> >>do I consider it inerrant or the word of any supreme being.
>> >>=======================
> =========>
>> >>Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the
>> >>LORD your
>> >>God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God
>> >>and has
>> >>violated the covenant by serving other gods or by wor****ping the
>> >>sun, the
>> >>moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly
>> >>forbidden. When
>> >>you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true
>> >>that
>> >>this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or
>> >>woman must
>> >>be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death.  Deuteronomy
>> >>1 7:2-5
>> >>NLT
>>
>> >     When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said 
>> >  to
>> > them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to
>> > throw a stone at her." John 8:7  (NIV)
>>
>> So you reject the authority and ANYONE to judge, punish or condemn
>> others 
> ,
>> eh Kent?
>>
> 
>  Jonez, had you bothered to actually understand the basics of
> Christian theology, you would have known that Jesus Christ taught love
> and forgiveness and compassion and that the judgement for sins comes
> only by G-d/Jesus Christ on his throne on your day of judgment. No
> human can percieve another's soul, much less inner thoughts,

And yet you do it all the time wrt Jonez.  Go figure.

> and
> therefore cannot fairly judge another in regards to heaven or hell.
> 
>  Also the following verse of "judge not" says " for as you judge , you
> will be judged."   To put it another way, you  condemn others, you
> yourself will be condemned.
> 
>  Are you claiming to have  the authority to judge, punish and condmnm
> me, Jonesie? (( Derisive laugh))

Well, he clearly has the "authority" to judge you according to his own 
lights.

>> >>Everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be
>> >>put to
>> >>death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.  2 Chronicles
>> >>15:12-13 NAB
>>
>> >> If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved
>> >> wife, or
>> >>you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom
>> >>you and
>> >>your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at
>> >>hand or far
>> >>away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him
>> >>or listen
>> >>to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or ****eld him, but
>> >>kill him.
>> >>Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the
>> >>people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death,
>> >>because he sought
>> >>to
>> >>lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the
>> >>lan of
>> >>Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this,
>> >>shall fear
>> >>and never do such evil as this in your midst.  Deuteronomy 13:7-12
>> >>NAB
>>
>> >     Do to others as you would have them do to you.  Luke 6:31 (NIV)
>>
>> So you reject the rest of God's Word in the Bible, save this singular
>> assertion
>> from Luke, eh blasphemer?
> 
>  Jonez, had you actually studied Christian teachings you would know
> that there is a big difference between OT and NT law. You would also
> have understood that the application of biblical commands is subject
> to human choice. Since we now do not own slaves, obviously the OT
> commands about slavery no longer apply. And while I've heard some
> Christians make pretzel-logic excuses for certain things in the Old
> Testament, I've also heard Christians explain that the OT laws were
> ine ffect done away with on the cross where Jesus Christ was
> crucified. And the new law, as explained by Jesus, was all about love,
> not hate. Did you by any chance misunderstand the parable of the Good
> Samaritan?

How about the parable of the church's 1965 year war against Jews for the 
killing of your god?

>  And calling someone a blasphemer is ironic considering your rabid
> hatred for Jehovah.

He doesn't hate Jehovah.  He might hate you, but then again "[n]o
human can percieve another's soul, much less inner thoughts," eh?

Really, trying to reason with Jonez about your religion just makes you 
look silly.

> Moe