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Re: More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon)

by andy7 <ajpokon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 17, 2008 at 01:20 PM

On May 16, 11:46=A0pm, Anthony Minkoff <admink...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> In article <i6GdnYucnNZXv7PVnZ2dnUVZ_r7in...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> =A0Ned Ludd <andy.bl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Anthony Minkoff wrote:
> > > In article <ZPGdnTb68cGj-LDVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > =A0Ned Ludd <andy.bl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> I can also argue that "none of us" would be down on the street.
=A0We=

> > >> wouldn't necessarily see any of this.
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> > > A cop shoots a running woman in the back in front of hundreds of
> > > witnesses, as it doesn't make the news? =A0Word doesn't get around
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all?
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> > > Some of us have grown up to be "losers who spend time on the
streets,"=

> > > and some of us have grown up to be "people who matter," and
> > > communication between the two groups has been so completely severed
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> > > something can be known by tens of thousands of people in Group A
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> > > tell me witnesses would be so nanchalant about it that they wouldn't
> > > even mention it to friends, family, and acquaintances), and not a
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> > > person in Group B would ever hear a word about it?
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> > Again, imagine a future society that is very much divided.
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> > The "losers who spend their time on the street" are little people,
they
> > are disposable.
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> > Sure, they might mention it to friends, family, acquaintances, but who
> > cares -- the "little people" are on the ground, and the people who
> > matter, the people who might care, are riding around in spinners.
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> > We're talking about a dystopian society here and as far as I can tell,
> > the society we live in now has yet to reach dystopia.
>
> Again, this future is the year 2019. =A0The people who inhabit this
world
> grew up and learned their moral values around the time (1982) when the
> movie was released.
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> I understand that the people who have the power and influence to do
> something meaningful mostly live in towers and ride in spinners.
=A0Today
> it's mansions and BMWs, tomorrow it's towers and spinners. =A0How does
> that make them not care about a cop shooting a woman in the back?- Hide
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The original scripts do have a scene with Bryant giving Deckard a
toungue la****ng for shooting Zhora in the open, but I think the moral
attitude of the time was set with the line "if your not cop your
little people". Remember the "respectable" people have all but left
earth and life is much tougher accross the board, and therefore more
cut throat. Remember she didn't exactly dress like somebody people
even today would care that much about. Prosititutes and exotic dancers
are one of the favorite targets of serial killers because not too many
people seem to care that they are missing. At least not the
"respectable" people

As far as Racheal goes, I had the feeling that the only person hunting
replicants at that time was Deckard. Therefore he was told probably
soon after Tyrell decided she was liability now that she knew who she
was. But to keep it from raising any red flags elsewhere it would have
been only known by Tyrell, Bryant, and Gaff before they had the chance
to tell Deckard personally. I think it was also being used as a test
to see Deckard's loyalty to his job.

As far as the chase goes I don't think it was in a straight line and
at most they only went one block(literally, since that was the size of
the set too). He seemed to chase her to the subway ramp and then she
seemed to double back. A good ****tion of the time she was hiding and
he was looking around. Leon may just have been planning on meeting up
with Zhora to walk her home too.

All in all I think it is all pretty plausible.

Andy
 




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When Rachel shot Leon
Anthony Minkoff <admin  2008-05-13 17:57:23 
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Bernie Dwyer <b_duibhi  2008-05-14 12:41:19 
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Alric Knebel <alric@[E  2008-05-14 02:45:34 
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"StainlessSteelRat&q  2008-05-14 17:35:30 
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Anthony Minkoff <admin  2008-05-14 19:25:17 
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Alric Knebel <alric@[E  2008-05-15 02:34:03 
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Netrunner <e-mail.me@[  2008-05-15 03:41:06 
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"StainlessSteelRat&q  2008-05-15 11:12:40 
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Anthony Minkoff <admin  2008-05-15 02:31:36 
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"POD {Ò¿Ó}" &l  2008-05-15 10:37:08 
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"Alfie [UK]" &l  2008-05-16 07:31:48 
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"POD {Ò¿Ó}" &l  2008-05-16 08:35:59 
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Ned Ludd <andy.block@[  2008-05-16 03:49:26 
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"Alfie [UK]" &l  2008-05-16 19:19:08 
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Anthony Minkoff <admin  2008-05-16 15:39:11 
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Eberhard Schefold <eba  2008-05-14 20:57:03 
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Alric Knebel <alric@[E  2008-05-15 02:34:43 
More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon)
Anthony Minkoff <admin  2008-05-15 09:53:29 
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Nicklas Ingels <nickla  2008-05-15 17:02:07 
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Anthony Minkoff <admin  2008-05-15 21:12:26 
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Nicklas Ingels <nickla  2008-05-16 15:15:45 
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Anthony Minkoff <admin  2008-05-16 15:18:32 
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Ned Ludd <andy.block@[  2008-05-15 10:40:41 
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Anthony Minkoff <admin  2008-05-15 21:38:15 
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Ned Ludd <andy.block@[  2008-05-16 03:43:11 
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Anthony Minkoff <admin  2008-05-16 15:10:39 
Re: More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon
Ned Ludd <andy.block@[  2008-05-16 17:11:54 
Re: More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon
Anthony Minkoff <admin  2008-05-16 20:46:47 
Re: More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon
Ned Ludd <andy.block@[  2008-05-18 08:40:59 
Re: More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon
Gnomus <gnomus@[EMAIL   2008-05-15 13:55:01 
Re: More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon
Eberhard Schefold <eba  2008-05-15 21:18:14 
Re: More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon
Netrunner <e-mail.me@[  2008-06-10 15:10:05 
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Gnomus <gnomus@[EMAIL   2008-06-11 00:39:04 
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Netrunner <e-mail.me@[  2008-06-11 14:20:31 
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Gnomus <gnomus@[EMAIL   2008-06-12 15:19:01 
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Ned Ludd <andy.block@[  2008-06-11 12:21:21 
Re: More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon
Gnomus <gnomus@[EMAIL   2008-06-12 15:20:02 
Re: More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon
Netrunner <e-mail.me@[  2008-06-11 14:27:17 
Re: More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon
"Alfie [UK]" &l  2008-06-11 20:41:45 
Re: More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon
Eberhard Schefold <eba  2008-06-11 20:26:32 
Re: More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon
Netrunner <e-mail.me@[  2008-06-11 14:24:46 
Re: More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon
Eberhard Schefold <eba  2008-06-11 21:48:45 
Re: More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon
Ned Ludd <andy.block@[  2008-05-15 12:59:18 
Re: More about this part of the movie (Re: When Rachel shot Leon
andy7 <ajpokon@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 13:20:55 

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