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Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"

by "Evil Sponge" <donotemailme@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 29, 2008 at 07:06 PM

"Netrunner" <e-mail.me@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Standing in the dark, rainy shadows of a city alleyway, I spied the
> Replicant Evil Sponge covertly transmitting a message to renegade
> friends in alt.fan.blade-runner.  Tracking...
>
>>
>>"Alric Knebel" <alric@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>news:q7mdnRBFyYugQFranZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Evil Sponge wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Bernie Dwyer" <b_duibhirz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>>>>http://www.lep.co.uk/entertainment/Films-39robbed39-of-an-Oscar.3810166.jp
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, that's 'jp' at the end, not 'jpg' - no idea why.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Sixth Sense? WTF? Maybe if they created a new prize category for
>>>> "most obvious plot twist". Jeez.
>>>
>>> I didn't think it was that obvious.  In fact, I went to see it twice
to
>>> see if they were true to their conceit, in every scene.
>>>
>>
>>I've had this discussion with many people now, and I still don't get how
>>anyone fails to work it out. I have to apologise here, because it's
>>impossible to say this without sounding patronising - but I guessed it 
>>from
>>the trailer. And about 10 mins into the film, it was so painfully
obvious
>>that I found myself sneering at it and hating it, and even more so at
the
>>people who walked out of the cinema saying "wow, that was amazing!" I've
>>spoken to a few other people who feel the same way, but it seems the
>>majority love it. Er.... anyway... nothing personal. To each his own,
>>there's no accounting for taste, horses for courses, etc.
>>
> If I may say, this is somewhat of a circular argument (speaking
> logically).  Because you guessed the correct plot twist, it then
> became obvious that that is what it was.  And then logically, because
> it was then obvious to you it is natural to deduce it was inherently
> obvious.

I concede that your argument does make some kind of sense there : )

The fact that you've had a lot of people say to you that it
> was not obvious to them, and probably many who didn't figure it out
> before it was revealed, should at least make you consider that it was
> not inherently obvious.

Or maybe I'm just a genius...

 Given your film interests, I would say you
> were probably already amongst those likely to figure there even was a
> plot twist long before it was actually suggested in the film.
>

That is perhaps correct... but then the same could be said of yourself and

anyone else in this group.

> What about Fight Club or The Usual Suspects?

Great films with great twists that were genuinely surprising. Everything 
that the Sixth Sense was not.

 I can see why guessing
> one film could make you sneer at that film, but sneering at the people
> who didn't get it straight away reflects upon you in a negative way.

Well, I am a bit of a twat...

> I didn't get around to seeing it until it was on telly, but hadn't
> bothered to find out much about it.  As I happen to find all of
> Shyamalan's films rather irritating - this one included - I probably
> wasn't paying full attention, but know the twist didn't occur to me
> until they were at a party some way into the film and even then I
> didn't "know" it.
>

It might be a bit pointless to say *SPOILER* here, but here it is
anyway....


*SPOILER*



*





*




Maybe my hatred of the film is blinding me somewhat here, and as you point

out, having guessed what the twist may be, my mind wasn't entirely
clean... 
but... I still think it's blindingly obvious. Bruce doesn't touch 
anything... he doesn't talk to anyone except the kid... and you even see
him 
get shot in the opening scene. How much more obvious can it be? Surely 
somebody here agrees with me on this?
 




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Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Bernie Dwyer <b_duibhi  2008-02-25 09:19:30 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Evil Sponge" &  2008-02-25 14:54:59 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"POD {Ò¿Ó}" &l  2008-02-25 17:23:53 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Alric Knebel <alric@[E  2008-02-29 04:25:54 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Evil Sponge" &  2008-02-29 14:25:25 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Netrunner <e-mail.me@[  2008-02-29 12:09:29 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Evil Sponge" &  2008-02-29 19:06:22 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Sentinel" <  2008-02-29 20:29:35 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Gnomus <gnomus@[EMAIL   2008-02-29 15:20:02 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Gnomus <gnomus@[EMAIL   2008-02-29 15:18:02 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Alric Knebel <alric@[E  2008-03-01 11:11:04 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Evil Sponge" &  2008-03-01 18:48:20 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Gnomus <gnomus@[EMAIL   2008-03-01 14:36:01 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Sentinel" <  2008-03-01 21:40:02 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Evil Sponge" &  2008-03-01 22:14:46 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Dennis Lodewijks <d.lo  2008-03-12 17:30:40 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Gnomus <gnomus@[EMAIL   2008-03-12 14:32:01 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Evil Sponge" &  2008-03-12 19:49:53 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Sentinel" <  2008-03-12 21:01:12 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Dennis Lodewijks <d.lo  2008-03-13 19:54:50 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Ned Ludd <andy.block@[  2008-03-12 13:17:40 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Gnomus <gnomus@[EMAIL   2008-03-12 21:17:01 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Netrunner <e-mail.me@[  2008-03-01 13:26:39 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Evil Sponge" &  2008-03-01 20:23:36 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Father Viv" &l  2008-04-19 17:22:16 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Evil Sponge" &  2008-04-20 14:37:52 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Dennis Lodewijks <d.lo  2008-03-12 17:25:17 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Evil Sponge" &  2008-03-18 18:45:21 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Alric Knebel <alric@[E  2008-03-01 11:03:25 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Evil Sponge" &  2008-03-01 19:03:55 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Alric Knebel <alric@[E  2008-03-01 13:46:22 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Sentinel" <  2008-03-01 20:57:31 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Evil Sponge" &  2008-03-01 20:16:34 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
"Sentinel" <  2008-02-29 19:19:24 
Re: Another BR mention in a survey - "robbed of an oscar"
Netrunner <e-mail.me@[  2008-03-02 13:39:21 

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