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Re: Can anyone help me with Schoenberg's 'Harmony?'

by "Matthew Fields" <spam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 19, 2005 at 11:53 PM

In article <slrndba0p7.iv4.slvrmn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Albert Silverman  <slvrmn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>On 2005-06-17, Adam Golding <adamgolding@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> on the contrary, Schoenberg's book rules!  it might be good to combine
>> it with something more orthodox, like aldwell and schacter, but the
>> Schoenberg is really good at stimulating *thought* about theory...
>>
>> (and i'm surprised Al doesn't adore it, scathingly as it does speak of
>> traditional musical education and its dogmatic answers)
>
>You are missing the point. While both Schoenberg and I speak scathingly
of 
>traditional musical eduction, it is for quite different reason.
Schoenberg 
>disparages the compositional product of traditional rules, regulations, 
>dogma, etc. In particular, he does not believe in the "tonality" that is 
>implicit in traditional compositional style.

In other words you have not the slightest clue what's in Schoenberg's
books.

>In contrast, it is not the *music* itself which I disparage, but rather 
>the traditional *explanation* of this music; an explanation which is
based 
>upon its compositional *style*, rather than upon its *principles*. 
>Traditional composition is indeed chord-based, whereas the theoretical 
>principles which Schoenberg later came to embrace are *not* chord-based.
>
>So my battle is an attempt to get these chord-based principles out there 
>in a different manner than the obfuscated and absurd manner that they are

>traditionally "explained."
>
>
>Albert Silverman
>(Al is in Wonderland!)
>where relevance is irrelevant
>along with understanding
>

The real contrast, Al, is that Arnold Schoenberg knew what he was
talking about. Alas, you don't, not even when describing Schoenberg's
writings.


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Re: Can anyone help me with Schoenberg's 'Harmony?'
"Matthew Fields"  2005-06-19 23:53:13 
Re: Can anyone help me with Schoenberg's 'Harmony?'
PJR <pjr@[EMAIL PROTEC  2005-06-20 23:25:16 

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