Re: I remember Diana, Princess of Wales

"David" <dsalo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Sep 3, 2:08 pm, "William Black" <william.bl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > On Sep 3, 11:49 am, "William Black" <william.bl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> > On Sep 3, 5:12 am, "William Black" <william.bl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> >> "Turenne" <richard.licht...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> >> > Nicholas III wrote:
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>> >> >> >>In particular most British Aristocrats are not addressed by
their
>> >> >> >>title
>> >> >> >>followed by their first name.
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>> >> >> > Only sons of marquesses and dukes. Also knights and baronets
and
>> >> >> > daughters of dukes, marquesses and earls
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>> >> >> Knights are not aristocrats.
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>> >> >> They are commoners.
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>> >> > "Aristocrat" isn't a technical term, or an equivalent for "peer". 
>> >> > The
>> >> > vast majority of aristocrats were and are commoners (as the
British
>> >> > understand the term).  All it means is "upper class", sometimes
with
>> >> > the restriction "upper class by inheritance of several
generations".
>> >> > What an "aristocrat" was in, say, France or Germany, is another 
>> >> > matter
>> >> > entirely.
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>> >> OK.
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>> >> Knights remain commoners.
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>> >> An aristocrat,  to my mind,  is someone who inherits a title.
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>> > Then that would exclude the late Diana Spencer Windsor.
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>> I thought she had a title because of who her daddy was.
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>> She was 'The Lady Diana Spencer'
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>> She will have regained her courtesy title on her divorce.
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> A courtesy title isn't an hereditary property any more than a title
> obtained by marriage is; it's not inherited, it's attributed by virtue
> of one's family connections, a way of expressing the fact that the
> person with the title resides within the penumbra of another person
> who actually does possess a title as an hereditary property.  Had
> Diana had children by a later marriage, they would not have inherited
> a "Spencer" title.
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Wouldn't they have been 'The Hon'?

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.